I have received private questions on how to nominate and vote. My interpretation is that nobody has suggested that we nominate and vote using another procedure than default in consensus building: posting to the list.

Why should voting be secret? We strive openness and transparency in decision processes by making decisions through consensus on the mailing lists. I think secret voting should have a very clear rationale in order to prefer it. g-) ------- Original message ------- From: Martin Hoffmann <hn(a)nvnc.de> Cc: serusers(a)lists.iptel.org, serdev(a)lists.iptel.org, semsdev(a)iptel.org Sent: 18.5.'07, 10:54 > Greger V. Teigre wrote: > >> I have received private questions on how to nominate and vote. My >> interpretation is that nobody has suggested that we nominate and >> vote using another procedure than default in consensus building: >> posting to the list. >> > I think it is one main feature of all this voting business to be > secret. > > Regards, > Martin > _______________________________________________ Serusers mailing list Serusers(a)lists.iptel.org http://lists.iptel.org/mailman/listinfo/serusers

Personally I will constrain myself to three however difficult it may be (in alphabetical order): Andrei for his long-lasting core achievements and insights, Jan for his so-many-modules and DB-model achievements and insights, and Hendrik for his modules and hands-on operational experience. (Notwisthanding that, I really have a long list of other individuals whom I consider technically fit for that, Greger, Nils, Martin, Maxim, Miklos, ... actually the list would become longer and longer, one just hast to make a call...) -jiri At 11:19 24/05/2007, Jan Janak wrote: > I would like to nominate Stefan Sayer for SEMS, Jiri Kuthan and Andrei > Pelinescu for SER, and last, but not least, Greger Teigre and Hendrik > Scholz. > > Jan. > > Greger V. Teigre wrote: > > >> Ok, I'll keep track of nominations on a new page on iptel.org if and >> when people accept the nominations. >> >> Let me start: >> I would like to nominate Jan Janak and Andrei Pelinescu-Onciul for the >> two developer positions (both due to their central involvement across >> SER), N. (sip(a)arcdiv.com) as a user community representative (due to >> long-time and valuable serusers activity), and Martin Hoffmann as a user >> community representative (due to his strong SER credentials as book >> auther, long-term developer and operator of service provider >> installations). >> >> As Raphael has already accepted his nomination as a SEMS >> representative/developer, I only nominate four. >> g-) >> >> >> SIP wrote: >> >> >>> You ought to stick up a page on the Iptel site somewhere to keep track >>> of who's been nominated perhaps, so people could reference it when >>> deciding their votes. Just an idea. >>> >>> I nominate Greger to keep track of all of this voting nominating >>> stuff! Seconded? ;) >>> >>> >>> N. >>> >>> >>> Greger Viken Teigre wrote: >>> >>> >>>> Why should voting be secret? We strive openness and transparency in >>>> decision processes by making decisions through consensus on the >>>> mailing lists. I think secret voting should have a very clear >>>> rationale in order to prefer it. >>>> g-) >>>> ------- Original message ------- >>>> From: Martin Hoffmann <hn(a)nvnc.de> >>>> Cc: serusers(a)lists.iptel.org, serdev(a)lists.iptel.org, semsdev(a)iptel.org >>>> Sent: 18.5.'07, 10:54 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> Greger V. Teigre wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> I have received private questions on how to nominate and vote. My >>>>>> interpretation is that nobody has suggested that we nominate and >>>>>> vote using another procedure than default in consensus building: >>>>>> posting to the list. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> I think it is one main feature of all this voting business to be >>>>> secret. >>>>> >>>>> Regards, >>>>> Martin >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Serusers mailing list >>>> Serusers(a)lists.iptel.org >>>> http://lists.iptel.org/mailman/listinfo/serusers >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Serusers mailing list >> Serusers(a)lists.iptel.org >> http://lists.iptel.org/mailman/listinfo/serusers >> >> >> > _______________________________________________ > Serdev mailing list > Serdev(a)lists.iptel.org > http://lists.iptel.org/mailman/listinfo/serdev > >

I suggest we focus on the technical board right now and pick up that ball a bit later. Note also that it's iptel.org contributors and not only SER contributors who are within the scope of nominations to the technical board. g-) Jiri Kuthan wrote: > Shall not we have another narrowly focused group for resolving interop > issues, ideally recruited on a wider basis than SER contributors? > > -jiri > > At 12:41 24/05/2007, Jiri Kuthan wrote: > > > >> Personally I will constrain myself to three however difficult it >> may be (in alphabetical order): Andrei for his long-lasting core >> achievements and insights, Jan for his so-many-modules and DB-model >> achievements and insights, and Hendrik for his modules and hands-on >> operational experience. (Notwisthanding that, I really have a long >> list of other individuals whom I consider technically fit for that, >> Greger, Nils, Martin, Maxim, Miklos, ... actually the list would become >> longer and longer, one just hast to make a call...) >> >> >> -jiri >> >> At 11:19 24/05/2007, Jan Janak wrote: >> >> >> >>> I would like to nominate Stefan Sayer for SEMS, Jiri Kuthan and Andrei >>> Pelinescu for SER, and last, but not least, Greger Teigre and Hendrik >>> Scholz. >>> >>> Jan. >>> >>> Greger V. Teigre wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>> Ok, I'll keep track of nominations on a new page on iptel.org if and >>>> when people accept the nominations. >>>> >>>> Let me start: >>>> I would like to nominate Jan Janak and Andrei Pelinescu-Onciul for the >>>> two developer positions (both due to their central involvement across >>>> SER), N. (sip(a)arcdiv.com) as a user community representative (due to >>>> long-time and valuable serusers activity), and Martin Hoffmann as a user >>>> community representative (due to his strong SER credentials as book >>>> auther, long-term developer and operator of service provider >>>> installations). >>>> >>>> As Raphael has already accepted his nomination as a SEMS >>>> representative/developer, I only nominate four. >>>> g-) >>>> >>>> >>>> SIP wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> You ought to stick up a page on the Iptel site somewhere to keep track >>>>> of who's been nominated perhaps, so people could reference it when >>>>> deciding their votes. Just an idea. >>>>> >>>>> I nominate Greger to keep track of all of this voting nominating >>>>> stuff! Seconded? ;) >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> N. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Greger Viken Teigre wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Why should voting be secret? We strive openness and transparency in >>>>>> decision processes by making decisions through consensus on the >>>>>> mailing lists. I think secret voting should have a very clear >>>>>> rationale in order to prefer it. >>>>>> g-) >>>>>> ------- Original message ------- >>>>>> From: Martin Hoffmann <hn(a)nvnc.de> >>>>>> Cc: serusers(a)lists.iptel.org, serdev(a)lists.iptel.org, semsdev(a)iptel.org >>>>>> Sent: 18.5.'07, 10:54 >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> Greger V. Teigre wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I have received private questions on how to nominate and vote. My >>>>>>>> interpretation is that nobody has suggested that we nominate and >>>>>>>> vote using another procedure than default in consensus building: >>>>>>>> posting to the list. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> I think it is one main feature of all this voting business to be >>>>>>> secret. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>> Martin >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Serusers mailing list >>>>>> Serusers(a)lists.iptel.org >>>>>> http://lists.iptel.org/mailman/listinfo/serusers >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Serusers mailing list >>>> Serusers(a)lists.iptel.org >>>> http://lists.iptel.org/mailman/listinfo/serusers >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Serdev mailing list >>> Serdev(a)lists.iptel.org >>> http://lists.iptel.org/mailman/listinfo/serdev >>> >>> >>> > -- > Jiri Kuthan http://iptel.org/~jiri/ > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Serusers mailing list Serusers(a)lists.iptel.org http://lists.iptel.org/mailman/listinfo/serusers