RE: [Serusers] What do you have against SOAP? (was Carrier-grade framework for SER)

Greger and everyone else that is interested, Please consider before ruling out SOAP, that SOAP has more off the shelf libraries to support it then XMLRPC. Please consider the folks that use Microsoft platforms for their back end processing and databases, and keep in mind the following: Yukon is just around the corner. It has SOAP services built in, as well as the ability to call SOAP services directly from T-SQL. Also we implement a carrier grade platform using SER, which is in use by a number of VoIP providers here, with the following extensions: 1) An extra module which allows for RADIUS URI translation, extended AVP lookup, via extra string parameter which lets you identify what AVP query you wish to do, and an extra flag in the registration database "FOREIGN" registration, to identify a contact which has been replicated from another SER server. 2) A service which speaks SOAP to he outside world, (it's own http server on non-standard port) to allow an external interface to the SER FIFO interface. It use is for external Voicemail MWI Notifies, and to send refresh, reboot and report notify messages to SIP devices. 3) A generic provisioning server for almost any SIP device, which can be provisioned via TFTP, HTTP, or HTTPS. This server dynamically builds configuration files in memory on the fly for any device based on RE pattern matching of the filename, mapped to SQL statement, which returns device parameters. With just these above three things, we can implement a full carrier grade system, with full automated device provisioning, all CLASS 5 features, such as unlimited level hunting, recursive call forwarding (even when each device in the forwarding has a different dial plan) and just about anything else you can think of. To accomplish this, we depend on SOAP as a method of component communication because we consider any platform, including Microsoft and the ".NET framework" as things we need to interact with. If your goal is to provide a framework for integrating with other platforms, SOAP bring a lot more flexibility to the game, and make it more compatible with more platforms. Remember, this is just an opinion, however it needed to be expressed, just so you know what other folks are doing with SER. --Dave -----Original Message----- From: serusers-bounces(a)iptel.org [mailto:serusers-bounces@lists.iptel.org] On Behalf Of Greger V. Teigre Sent: Monday, January 24, 2005 11:29 PM To: Juha Heinanen Cc: serusers(a)lists.iptel.org Subject: Re: [Serusers] Carrier-grade framework for SER Juha, Yes, I completely agree with you. However, I don't need to read the spec and far from understand it before I use it... ;-) So I did start to look at SOAP and have very good experiences, both in terms of usability and scalability. But, I don't have strong opinions, if the people who are going to use the interface are all against SOAP, XMLRPC is the right choice. The xmlrpc-provisioning work you have done, can it be coordinated with Andreas' effort? g-) Juha Heinanen wrote: _______________________________________________ Serusers mailing list serusers(a)lists.iptel.org http://lists.iptel.org/mailman/listinfo/serusers