Hello,
I prohibited posting from non-members to the list again (such mails are held for review) due to large number of bogus messages received during last couple of hours. It will be enabled again later.
I would like to encourage people who are using MS Outlook or similar bullshit from microsoft to try a different mail client. Outlook is evil and microsoft is doing nothing about that.
During the last couple of hours I received 400 reports that my emails or emails from the mailing lists contain a virus or are undeliverable.
Please stop this madness and stop using outlook.
Jan.
PS: It's curious that Bill Gates gave a speech yesterday in Prague regarding network security and how seriously are they taking it...
On Wed, 2004-01-28 at 12:46, Jan Janak wrote:
PS: It's curious that Bill Gates gave a speech yesterday in Prague regarding network security and how seriously are they taking it...
Even more astonishing is that the British government has honoured him with a knighthood for his services! Obviously his business practises are accepted there and the government couldn't care less about the fact that he is under investigation by the EU.
Outlook is not as bad as many people says - the peolpe who are using Outlook make mistakes (open attachments which contains viruses) For example, Outlook blocks access to .exe/.pif/.scr attachments. If the virus is zipped and the user extracts it and then starts it, then the user is guilty, not Outlook.
Nevertheless I switched to Mozilla as mail client for mailing lists as Outlook can not quote correct and doesn't support a thread view. I still use Outlook for all other mails and never had any problems with viruses, worms, ...
regards, Klaus
Jan Janak wrote:
Hello,
I prohibited posting from non-members to the list again (such mails are held for review) due to large number of bogus messages received during last couple of hours. It will be enabled again later.
I would like to encourage people who are using MS Outlook or similar bullshit from microsoft to try a different mail client. Outlook is evil and microsoft is doing nothing about that.
During the last couple of hours I received 400 reports that my emails or emails from the mailing lists contain a virus or are undeliverable.
Please stop this madness and stop using outlook.
Jan.
PS: It's curious that Bill Gates gave a speech yesterday in Prague regarding network security and how seriously are they taking it...
Serusers mailing list serusers@lists.iptel.org http://lists.iptel.org/mailman/listinfo/serusers
Hi,
Jan Janak wrote:
I prohibited posting from non-members to the list again (such mails are held for review) due to large number of bogus messages received during last couple of hours. It will be enabled again later.
may i suggest that you just leave it blocked to non-subscribers? This will help keeping spams and worms out of the list.
-- Arnd
I will open the list again once the storm is over. The reason is that many people subscribed to the list have more than one e-mail address and if they post from address which is not subscribed, I have to confirm it manually.
Jan.
On 28-01 19:36, Arnd Vehling wrote:
Hi,
Jan Janak wrote:
I prohibited posting from non-members to the list again (such mails are held for review) due to large number of bogus messages received during last couple of hours. It will be enabled again later.
may i suggest that you just leave it blocked to non-subscribers? This will help keeping spams and worms out of the list.
-- Arnd
It's a good idea in general to prohibit outside posts. But this won't stop the bogus worm-containing messages being sent out with fake "From: " addresses which are addressed as coming from the list, you, or even me. These worms gather email addresses from received emails, inboxes, etc, etc, and use valid "From: " addresses to masquerade as anyone they want.
This is a flaw in RFC822 which should be fixed, and also why I automaticaly sign every message I send w/ a digital signature to provide evidence of authenticity (except to mailing lists which mangle the message, thereby invalidating the signature...sigh). How this flaw can be fixed is another issue (no simple way I can think of offhand).
Worms like Novarg arn't really the fault of Outlook, since in this case they require the user to actually run the virus as far as I know, in some cases requiring the user to unbundle the virus program from a zip file! The problem's cause here is what I call a UIE (User Ignorance Error) :-). That, and the fact that many users still don't run AV software :-|.
- Jim
Jan Janak wrote:
Hello,
I prohibited posting from non-members to the list again (such mails are held for review) due to large number of bogus messages received during last couple of hours. It will be enabled again later.
I would like to encourage people who are using MS Outlook or similar bullshit from microsoft to try a different mail client. Outlook is evil and microsoft is doing nothing about that.
During the last couple of hours I received 400 reports that my emails or emails from the mailing lists contain a virus or are undeliverable.
Please stop this madness and stop using outlook.
Jan.
PS: It's curious that Bill Gates gave a speech yesterday in Prague regarding network security and how seriously are they taking it...
Serusers mailing list serusers@lists.iptel.org http://lists.iptel.org/mailman/listinfo/serusers
Jim Burwell wrote:
It's a good idea in general to prohibit outside posts. But this won't stop the bogus worm-containing messages being sent out with fake "From: " addresses which are addressed as coming from the list, you, or even me. These worms gather email addresses from received emails, inboxes, etc, etc, and use valid "From: " addresses to masquerade as anyone they want.
True, but some worms use the e-mail address list of the victim and use those addresses as "from-address". Therefore keeping unsubscribed users out of the list would still help keeping the "trash" level of the list low.
-- Arnd
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