28 Mar
2011
28 Mar
'11
10:18 a.m.
Hello,
for the second year, Kamailio is participating in GSoC program. For
2011, the proposal is to implement a signaling gateway between SIP and
JINGLE to enable voice calls between the two networks:
http://www.jitsi.org/index.php/GSOC2011/KamailioJingle
If you are a student, or you know a student, interested in this project,
just write me or to sr-dev(a)lists.sip-router.org. The application starts
today and the deadline is April 8, therefore it is quite a short period,
you will have to hurry.
You can read more about the GSoC program and Kamailio at:
http://www.kamailio.org/w/gsoc-2011/
http://www.jitsi.org/index.php/Development/Gsoc2011
Cheers,
Daniel
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http://www.asipto.com
28 Mar
28 Mar
5:03 a.m.
Daniel-Constantin Mierla writes:
for the second year, Kamailio is participating in GSoC
program. For
2011, the proposal is to implement a signaling gateway between SIP and
JINGLE to enable voice calls between the two networks:
i read somewhere that googletalk now supports sip, but don't know if i
can use my google account as googletalk sip account.
how is jingle related to googletalk?
-- juha
11:23 a.m.
New subject: [sr-dev] Kamailio at Google Summer of Code 2011
2011/3/28 Juha Heinanen <jh(a)tutpro.com>om>:
i read somewhere that googletalk now supports sip
I don't think so. GoogleTalk is XMPP and uses Jingle for voice.
Maybe you meant GoogleVoice (https://www.google.com/voice/) which is a
PSTN service in which Google uses SIP internally.
how is jingle related to googletalk?
Jingle is a extension for adding voice/video support into XMPP.
--
Iñaki Baz Castillo
<ibc(a)aliax.net>
5:58 a.m.
New subject: [sr-dev] Kamailio at Google Summer of Code 2011
Iñaki Baz Castillo writes:
I don't think so. GoogleTalk is XMPP and uses
Jingle for voice.
Maybe you meant GoogleVoice (https://www.google.com/voice/) which is a
PSTN service in which Google uses SIP internally.
yes, sorry, i meant googlevoice. so i read somewhere that now
googlevoice users are able to receive and place sip calls anywhere on
the internet. the uri is sip:+number@sip.voice.google.com.
it is plain stupid that sip:username@google.com is not supported yet for
normal google accounts. perhaps your summer coder can implement that!
would be in my opinion much more useful than jingle gateway. in
gateways dome functionality is always lost and address may be
complicated.
-- juha
11:29 a.m.
New subject: [sr-dev] Kamailio at Google Summer of Code 2011
2011/3/28 Daniel-Constantin Mierla <miconda(a)gmail.com>om>:
the proposal is to implement a signaling gateway
between SIP and JINGLE to
enable voice calls between the two networks
Let me a question: Why SIP people is interested in interoperate with
XMPP while the opposite is not true?
We have also tried to build IM/presence gateways between SIP and XMPP
(well, as SIMPLE just sucks it's arguable).
But, have XMPP people tryed to "integrate" SIP into XMPP? not at all,
they have developed their own spec for adding voice/video over XMPP. I
don't think they are interested in SIP at all.
As a teacher in my high school told me, protocol A cannot be
compatible with protocol B. If they are compatible, then they are the
*same* protocol. So "interoperability" between different protocols
just mean that a single protocol will remain alive. Which one?
Just wondering.
--
Iñaki Baz Castillo
<ibc(a)aliax.net>
11:34 a.m.
New subject: [sr-dev] Kamailio at Google Summer of Code 2011
28 mar 2011 kl. 11.29 skrev Iñaki Baz Castillo:
2011/3/28 Daniel-Constantin Mierla
<miconda(a)gmail.com>om>:
Inaki. Do google before stating things like
this ;-)
THe XMPP people have written drafts about SIP XMPP interoperability but have gotten almost
no response from the SIP crowds...
http://xmpp.org/internet-drafts/draft-saintandre-sip-xmpp-core-01.html
http://xmpp.org/internet-drafts/draft-saintandre-sip-xmpp-groupchat-01.html
http://xmpp.org/internet-drafts/draft-saintandre-sip-xmpp-media-01.html
Now, check the SIP forum. How many times do they mention XMPP?
/O
the proposal is to implement a signaling gateway
between SIP and JINGLE to
enable voice calls between the two networks
Let me a question: Why SIP people is interested in interoperate with
XMPP while the opposite is not true? We have also tried to build IM/presence gateways
between SIP and XMPP
(well, as SIMPLE just sucks it's arguable).
But, have XMPP people tryed to "integrate" SIP into XMPP? not at all,
they have developed their own spec for adding voice/video over XMPP. I
don't think they are interested in SIP at all.
As a teacher in my high school told me, protocol A cannot be
compatible with protocol B. If they are compatible, then they are the
*same* protocol. So "interoperability" between different protocols
just mean that a single protocol will remain alive. Which one?
Just wondering.
--
Iñaki Baz Castillo
<ibc(a)aliax.net>
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11:46 a.m.
New subject: [sr-dev] Kamailio at Google Summer of Code 2011
2011/3/28 Olle E. Johansson <oej(a)edvina.net>et>:
You are right, sorry. Anyhow, how you ever seen a XMPP server
integrating some kind of interoperability/gateway with SIP? In
Kamailio/*SER we have some attemps to interoperate with XMPP world.
--
Iñaki Baz Castillo
<ibc(a)aliax.net>
Let me a
question: Why SIP people is interested in interoperate with
XMPP while the opposite is not true?
Inaki. Do google before stating things like
this ;-)
THe XMPP people have written drafts about SIP XMPP interoperability but have gotten
almost no response from the SIP crowds...
http://xmpp.org/internet-drafts/draft-saintandre-sip-xmpp-core-01.html
http://xmpp.org/internet-drafts/draft-saintandre-sip-xmpp-groupchat-01.html
http://xmpp.org/internet-drafts/draft-saintandre-sip-xmpp-media-01.html
Now, check the SIP forum. How many times do they mention XMPP? 
11:49 a.m.
New subject: [sr-dev] Kamailio at Google Summer of Code 2011
Iñaki Baz Castillo wrote:
Anyhow, how you ever seen a XMPP server
integrating some kind of interoperability/gateway with SIP? In
Kamailio/*SER we have some attemps to interoperate with XMPP world.
Not quite sure what you are getting at. What does it matter whether the
SIP server is also an XMPP server or the other way round?
Regards,
Martin
11:55 a.m.
New subject: [sr-dev] Kamailio at Google Summer of Code 2011
2011/3/28 Martin Hoffmann <martin.hoffmann(a)telio.ch>ch>:
I just meant that SIP-XMPP interoperability efforts (at code level)
always come from SIP world.
--
Iñaki Baz Castillo
<ibc(a)aliax.net>
Anyhow, how
you ever seen a XMPP server
integrating some kind of interoperability/gateway with SIP? In
Kamailio/*SER we have some attemps to interoperate with XMPP world.
Not quite sure what you are getting at. What does it matter whether the
SIP server is also an XMPP server or the other way round? 
12:07 p.m.
New subject: [sr-dev] Kamailio at Google Summer of Code 2011
You are right, sorry. Anyhow, how you ever seen a XMPP
server
integrating some kind of interoperability/gateway with SIP? In
Kamailio/*SER we have some attemps to interoperate with XMPP world.
Openfire has SIP SIMPLE support.
Sebastian
29 Mar
29 Mar
1:51 a.m.
New subject: [sr-dev] Kamailio at Google Summer of Code 2011
2011/3/28 Schumann Sebastian <Sebastian.Schumann(a)st.sk>sk>:
What components of SIP SIMPLE does it support? MESSAGE?
PUBLISH/SUBSCRIBE/NOTIFY for event "presence"? XCAP? does it work?
--
Iñaki Baz Castillo
<ibc(a)aliax.net>
You are right,
sorry. Anyhow, how you ever seen a XMPP server
integrating some kind of interoperability/gateway with SIP? In
Kamailio/*SER we have some attemps to interoperate with XMPP world.
Openfire has SIP SIMPLE support.
9:38 a.m.
New subject: [sr-dev] Kamailio at Google Summer of Code 2011
2011/3/28 Schumann Sebastian
<Sebastian.Schumann(a)st.sk>sk>:
What components of SIP SIMPLE does it support? MESSAGE?
PUBLISH/SUBSCRIBE/NOTIFY for event "presence"? XCAP? does it work?
I don't know details as I have not used it myself. I just answered that I know an XMPP
server that does SIP integration - not sure to which extend and about functionality.
I assume it does not support XCAP as it claims SIP/SIMPLE in the gateway only (as per RFC
I guess and not OMA I assume). The gateway is under the same section as gateways to ICQ,
Gadu-Gadu etc. so IM gateway.
Moreover, it has an "Asterisk-IM" plugin and also a "SIP Phone
Plugin". Again, I do know to which extend they work, but it is an XMPP server and it
has implemented SIP on various places.
Best regards
Sebastian
You are
right, sorry. Anyhow, how you ever seen a XMPP server
integrating some kind of interoperability/gateway with SIP? In
Kamailio/*SER we have some attemps to interoperate with XMPP world.
Openfire has SIP SIMPLE support.
5 Apr
5 Apr
2:19 p.m.
New subject: [sr-dev] Kamailio at Google Summer of Code 2011
Hello,
I should have said it from the beginning that this project is
practically just a proposal for the moment, the idea started at FOSDEM
this year while talking with the folks at Jitsi project and we thought
sip-to-jingle gw might work only with signaling conversion.
We have one slot for a project at GSoC 2011, if you have your own idea
for some cool extension for Kamailio and you know a student willing to
implement it, just write here and we will consider it. At the end, we
will select the best idea based on the best potential student that looks
very likely to complete it.
Since the time is quite short, you better hurry with your proposals and
students.
Thanks,
Daniel
On 3/29/11 9:38 AM, Schumann Sebastian wrote:
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http://www.asipto.com
2011/3/28
Schumann Sebastian<Sebastian.Schumann(a)st.sk>sk>:
What components of SIP SIMPLE does it support? MESSAGE?
PUBLISH/SUBSCRIBE/NOTIFY for event "presence"? XCAP? does it work?
I
don't know details as I have not used it myself. I just answered that I know an XMPP
server that does SIP integration - not sure to which extend and about functionality.
I assume it does not support XCAP as it claims SIP/SIMPLE in the gateway only (as per RFC
I guess and not OMA I assume). The gateway is under the same section as gateways to ICQ,
Gadu-Gadu etc. so IM gateway.
Moreover, it has an "Asterisk-IM" plugin and also a "SIP Phone
Plugin". Again, I do know to which extend they work, but it is an XMPP server and it
has implemented SIP on various places.
Best regards
Sebastian
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http://lists.sip-router.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sr-users You are
right, sorry. Anyhow, how you ever seen a XMPP server
integrating some kind of interoperability/gateway with SIP? In
Kamailio/*SER we have some attemps to interoperate with XMPP world.
Openfire has
SIP SIMPLE support. 
2:33 p.m.
New subject: [sr-dev] Kamailio at Google Summer of Code 2011
On 04/05/2011 03:19 PM, Daniel-Constantin Mierla wrote:
Hello,
I should have said it from the beginning that this project is
practically just a proposal for the moment, the idea started at FOSDEM
this year while talking with the folks at Jitsi project and we thought
sip-to-jingle gw might work only with signaling conversion.
We have one slot for a project at GSoC 2011, if you have your own idea
for some cool extension for Kamailio and you know a student willing to
implement it, just write here and we will consider it. At the end, we
will select the best idea based on the best potential student that looks
very likely to complete it.
Since the time is quite short, you better hurry with your proposals and
students.
Hello,
I have started to work on HTABLE ( a BigTable type storage for Hadoop
from Apache) backend support in Kamailio, as I consider stepping away
from SQL type databases to more distributed environments will benefit us
in the long run. The requirements are C++ and Thrift(very easy to use -
already made them work), so we need an external C++ library that would
talk with K's future db_htable module. As time is not that it would be
nice that I have some help :).
Also I remember that there were talks last year about a new dialog
design and several people work on it. This would also be a nice
extension to K.
Of course, both ideas don't involve Jitsi directly, they might fail from
the start.
Marius
Thanks,
Daniel
On 3/29/11 9:38 AM, Schumann Sebastian wrote:
2011/3/28
Schumann Sebastian<Sebastian.Schumann(a)st.sk>sk>:
I don't know details as I have not used it myself. I just answered
that I know an XMPP server that does SIP integration - not sure to which extend and about
functionality.
I assume it does not support XCAP as it claims SIP/SIMPLE in the gateway only (as per RFC
I guess and not OMA I assume). The gateway is under the same section as gateways to ICQ,
Gadu-Gadu etc. so IM gateway.
Moreover, it has an "Asterisk-IM" plugin and also a "SIP Phone
Plugin". Again, I do know to which extend they work, but it is an XMPP server and it
has implemented SIP on various places.
Best regards
Sebastian
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> You are right, sorry. Anyhow, how you ever
seen a XMPP server
> integrating some kind of interoperability/gateway with SIP? In
> Kamailio/*SER we have some attemps to interoperate with XMPP world.
>
Openfire has SIP SIMPLE support.
What components of SIP SIMPLE does it support? MESSAGE?
PUBLISH/SUBSCRIBE/NOTIFY for event "presence"? XCAP? does it work?
2:41 p.m.
New subject: [sr-dev] Kamailio at Google Summer of Code 2011
Hello,
On 4/5/11 2:33 PM, marius zbihlei wrote:
On 04/05/2011 03:19 PM, Daniel-Constantin Mierla
wrote:
there is no need to involve Jitsi at all. Last year was practically
Kamailio alone, with SEMS supposed to do notifications from audio mixer
point of view.
So, the proposed projects must be related to Kamailio, preferably
something attractive and related to VoIP communication :-) .
Cheers,
Daniel
Hello,
I should have said it from the beginning that this project is
practically just a proposal for the moment, the idea started at FOSDEM
this year while talking with the folks at Jitsi project and we thought
sip-to-jingle gw might work only with signaling conversion.
We have one slot for a project at GSoC 2011, if you have your own idea
for some cool extension for Kamailio and you know a student willing to
implement it, just write here and we will consider it. At the end, we
will select the best idea based on the best potential student that looks
very likely to complete it.
Since the time is quite short, you better hurry with your proposals and
students.
Hello,
I have started to work on HTABLE ( a BigTable type storage for Hadoop
from Apache) backend support in Kamailio, as I consider stepping away
from SQL type databases to more distributed environments will benefit
us in the long run. The requirements are C++ and Thrift(very easy to
use - already made them work), so we need an external C++ library that
would talk with K's future db_htable module. As time is not that it
would be nice that I have some help :).
Also I remember that there were talks last year about a new dialog
design and several people work on it. This would also be a nice
extension to K.
Of course, both ideas don't involve Jitsi directly, they might fail
from the start.
Marius
--
Daniel-Constantin Mierla
http://www.asipto.com
Thanks,
Daniel
On 3/29/11 9:38 AM, Schumann Sebastian wrote:
>> 2011/3/28 Schumann Sebastian<Sebastian.Schumann(a)st.sk>sk>:
>>>> You are right, sorry. Anyhow, how you ever seen a XMPP server
>>>> integrating some kind of interoperability/gateway with SIP? In
>>>> Kamailio/*SER we have some attemps to interoperate with XMPP world.
>>> Openfire has SIP SIMPLE support.
>> What components of SIP SIMPLE does it support? MESSAGE?
>> PUBLISH/SUBSCRIBE/NOTIFY for event "presence"? XCAP? does it work?
> I don't know details as I have not used it myself. I just answered
> that I know an XMPP server that does SIP integration - not sure to
> which extend and about functionality.
>
> I assume it does not support XCAP as it claims SIP/SIMPLE in the
> gateway only (as per RFC I guess and not OMA I assume). The gateway
> is under the same section as gateways to ICQ, Gadu-Gadu etc. so IM
> gateway.
>
> Moreover, it has an "Asterisk-IM" plugin and also a "SIP Phone
> Plugin". Again, I do know to which extend they work, but it is an
> XMPP server and it has implemented SIP on various places.
>
> Best regards
> Sebastian
> _______________________________________________
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> sr-users(a)lists.sip-router.org
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7 Apr
7 Apr
4:36 p.m.
Helllo,
short reminder for those planning to register for GSoC 2011 with
proposed project or with their own idea, the deadline is tomorrow
evening, therefore you have to hurry up.
Thanks,
Daniel
On 3/28/11 10:18 AM, Daniel-Constantin Mierla wrote:
Hello,
for the second year, Kamailio is participating in GSoC program. For
2011, the proposal is to implement a signaling gateway between SIP and
JINGLE to enable voice calls between the two networks:
http://www.jitsi.org/index.php/GSOC2011/KamailioJingle
If you are a student, or you know a student, interested in this
project, just write me or to sr-dev(a)lists.sip-router.org. The
application starts today and the deadline is April 8, therefore it is
quite a short period, you will have to hurry.
You can read more about the GSoC program and Kamailio at:
http://www.kamailio.org/w/gsoc-2011/
http://www.jitsi.org/index.php/Development/Gsoc2011
Cheers,
Daniel
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http://www.asipto.com
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