13 Apr
2003
13 Apr
'03
8:53 p.m.
I'm interesting in experimenting with ENUM in conjunction with Ser and was
wondering if there is support for enum within ser. Additionally, if anyone
has experience and/or information on setting up a dns server for use with
ENUM that would be appreciated.
Steve Lewis
13 Apr
13 Apr
9:01 p.m.
At 08:53 PM 4/13/2003, Steve Lewis wrote:
Im interesting in experimenting with ENUM in
conjunction with Ser and was wondering if there is support for enum within ser.
There is ENUM support in the CVS version of SER (not yet in a stable release).
We've been reported people used it successfuly.
-Jiri
9:37 p.m.
Thanks,
Do you have any experience (or know) where I can get some info on setting up
an ENUM testbed with DNS and Linux?
-Steve
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To: Steve Lewis; serusers(a)lists.iptel.org
At 08:53 PM 4/13/2003, Steve Lewis wrote:
Im interesting in experimenting with ENUM in
conjunction with Ser and was
wondering if there is support for enum within ser.
There is ENUM support in the CVS version of SER (not yet in a stable
release).
We've been reported people used it successfuly.
-Jiri
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14 Apr
14 Apr
6:44 a.m.
Steve Lewis writes:
Do you have any experience (or know) where I can get
some info on setting up
an ENUM testbed with DNS and Linux?
if by testbed you mean running your own e164.arpa root, then you simply
make your dns server a root for e164.arpa domain by adding line
primary e164.arpa e164.arpa.db
into your named.boot file and then by populating file e164.arpa.db with
your enum entries. below is an example.
-- juha
------------------------------------------------------
$ more e164.arpa.db
$ORIGIN .
$TTL 0 ; 0 seconds
e164.arpa IN SOA foo.fi. hostmaster.foo.fi. (
200204681 ; serial
28800 ; refresh (8 hours)
7200 ; retry (2 hours)
604800 ; expire (1 week)
86400 ; minimum (1 day)
)
NS foo.fi.
$ORIGIN e164.arpa.
$ORIGIN 8.5.3.e164.arpa.
$ORIGIN 9.3.8.1.5.6.2.8.5.3.e164.arpa.
3.1 NAPTR 1 1 "u" "E2U+sip"
"!(^.*$)!sip:abc@bar.fi!i" .
4:35 p.m.
Thanks Juha,
I'm building SER from the CVS archives and will test. Do you have any
experience using any of the public ENUM servers, I believe there are a
couple ENUM trials underway now.
-Steve
-----Original Message-----
From: Juha Heinanen [mailto:jh@lohi.eng.song.fi]
Sent: Sunday, April 13, 2003 9:45 PM
To: Steve Lewis
Cc: serusers(a)lists.iptel.org
Steve Lewis writes:
Do you have any experience (or know) where I can get
some info on setting
up
an ENUM testbed with DNS and Linux?
if by testbed you mean running your own e164.arpa root, then you simply
make your dns server a root for e164.arpa domain by adding line
primary e164.arpa e164.arpa.db
into your named.boot file and then by populating file e164.arpa.db with
your enum entries. below is an example.
-- juha
------------------------------------------------------
$ more e164.arpa.db
$ORIGIN .
$TTL 0 ; 0 seconds
e164.arpa IN SOA foo.fi. hostmaster.foo.fi. (
200204681 ; serial
28800 ; refresh (8 hours)
7200 ; retry (2 hours)
604800 ; expire (1 week)
86400 ; minimum (1 day)
)
NS foo.fi.
$ORIGIN e164.arpa.
$ORIGIN 8.5.3.e164.arpa.
$ORIGIN 9.3.8.1.5.6.2.8.5.3.e164.arpa.
3.1 NAPTR 1 1 "u" "E2U+sip"
"!(^.*$)!sip:abc@bar.fi!i"
.
4:38 p.m.
this looks intreguing and i'm always looking for new tech. what is this
ENUM/dns whatsit and where can i get more info on it? a namd zone file with
regular expressions?
tell me more?
cheers
On Mon, Apr 14, 2003 at 07:35:18 -0700, Steve Lewis wrote:
Thanks Juha,
I'm building SER from the CVS archives and will test. Do you have any
experience using any of the public ENUM servers, I believe there are a
couple ENUM trials underway now.
-Steve
-----Original Message-----
From: Juha Heinanen [mailto:jh@lohi.eng.song.fi]
Sent: Sunday, April 13, 2003 9:45 PM
To: Steve Lewis
Cc: serusers(a)lists.iptel.org
Steve Lewis writes:
--
Mat Harris OpenGPG Public Key ID: C37D57D9
mat.harris(a)genestate.com www.genestate.com
Do you have any experience (or know) where I can
get some info on setting
up
an ENUM testbed with DNS and Linux?
if by testbed you mean running your own e164.arpa root, then you simply
make your dns server a root for e164.arpa domain by adding line
primary e164.arpa e164.arpa.db
into your named.boot file and then by populating file e164.arpa.db with
your enum entries. below is an example.
-- juha
------------------------------------------------------
$ more e164.arpa.db
$ORIGIN .
$TTL 0 ; 0 seconds
e164.arpa IN SOA foo.fi. hostmaster.foo.fi. (
200204681 ; serial
28800 ; refresh (8 hours)
7200 ; retry (2 hours)
604800 ; expire (1 week)
86400 ; minimum (1 day)
)
NS foo.fi.
$ORIGIN e164.arpa.
$ORIGIN 8.5.3.e164.arpa.
$ORIGIN 9.3.8.1.5.6.2.8.5.3.e164.arpa.
3.1 NAPTR 1 1 "u" "E2U+sip"
"!(^.*$)!sip:abc@bar.fi!i"
.
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6:58 p.m.
have a look at http://enum.nic.at for a start, we actually have two
registrars where you can register ENUM domains for telephone numbers
I am working to have some numbers made available for software developers so
they can be provisioned through the Telekom Austria Portal
-Michael
At 15:38 14.04.2003 +0100, Mat Harris wrote:
this looks intreguing and i'm always looking for
new tech. what is this
ENUM/dns whatsit and where can i get more info on it? a namd zone file with
regular expressions?
tell me more?
cheers
On Mon, Apr 14, 2003 at 07:35:18 -0700, Steve Lewis wrote:
Thanks Juha,
I'm building SER from the CVS archives and will test. Do you have any
experience using any of the public ENUM servers, I believe there are a
couple ENUM trials underway now.
-Steve
-----Original Message-----
From: Juha Heinanen [mailto:jh@lohi.eng.song.fi]
Sent: Sunday, April 13, 2003 9:45 PM
To: Steve Lewis
Cc: serusers(a)lists.iptel.org
Steve Lewis writes:
> Do you have any experience (or know) where I can get some info on
setting
up
"!(^.*$)!sip:abc@bar.fi!i"
an ENUM testbed with DNS and Linux?
if by testbed you mean running your own e164.arpa root, then you simply
make your dns server a root for e164.arpa domain by adding line
primary e164.arpa e164.arpa.db
into your named.boot file and then by populating file e164.arpa.db with
your enum entries. below is an example.
-- juha
------------------------------------------------------
$ more e164.arpa.db
$ORIGIN .
$TTL 0 ; 0 seconds
e164.arpa IN SOA foo.fi. hostmaster.foo.fi. (
200204681 ; serial
28800 ; refresh (8 hours)
7200 ; retry (2 hours)
604800 ; expire (1 week)
86400 ; minimum (1 day)
)
NS foo.fi.
$ORIGIN e164.arpa.
$ORIGIN 8.5.3.e164.arpa.
$ORIGIN 9.3.8.1.5.6.2.8.5.3.e164.arpa.
3.1 NAPTR 1 1 "u" "E2U+sip" .
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9:32 p.m.
Hi Mat,
Enum is basically a ITEF standard for mapping communications services based
on a standard telephone numbers... the client converts a phone number into a
dns entry then looks up records based on this conversion process (documented
in the standard)...
There are a number of standards docs at the IETF web site describing the
actual standard.
Steve
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From: "Mat Harris" <mat.harris(a)genestate.com>
To: "Steve Lewis" <h_stephen_lewis(a)hotmail.com>
Cc: "'Juha Heinanen'" <jh(a)lohi.eng.song.fi>fi>;
<serusers(a)lists.iptel.org>
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Subject: Re: [Serusers] ENUM support
15 Apr
15 Apr
9:49 a.m.
The idea of using ENUM at the server-side has a lot of problems
Example:
you get this from DNS
1) NAPTR 10 10 "u" "sip+E2U"
"!^.*$!sip:blabla@example.com!" .
2) NAPTR 10 20 "u" "sip+E2U"
"!^.*$!sip:blabla2@otherexample.com!" .
3) NAPTR 10 10 "u" "tel+E2U"
"!^.*$!iax:0900@expensivenumber.sex!" .
What to do ??
First try 1) or 3) ???
What happens if this failes ?? (not reachable, busy ??)
Is the user willing to pay the costs for 3) ??
Maybe the user wants to dial the REAL number (remember ENUM is a
additional information for the real world phone number). How will you find
this out ???
My conclusion is that ENUM is ALLWAYS a funktionality of the client and
NEVER of the server because of the need for the user to decide what he
realy wants to do. Any automatic resolution will fail.
Maybe there is a need for a kind of communication between Server and
Client (inside SIP ??) to solve these kind of problems.
Any ideas how so solve this problem ???
serusers-admin(a)lists.iptel.org wrote on 14.04.2003 21:32:49:
Hi Mat,
Enum is basically a ITEF standard for mapping communications services
based
on a standard telephone numbers... the client converts
a phone number
into a
dns entry then looks up records based on this
conversion process
(documented
in the standard)...
There are a number of standards docs at the IETF web site describing the
actual standard.
Steve
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From: "Mat Harris" <mat.harris(a)genestate.com>
To: "Steve Lewis" <h_stephen_lewis(a)hotmail.com>
Cc: "'Juha Heinanen'" <jh(a)lohi.eng.song.fi>fi>;
<serusers(a)lists.iptel.org>
Sent: Monday, April 14, 2003 7:38 AM
Subject: Re: [Serusers] ENUM support
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17 Apr
17 Apr
1:56 a.m.
It seems like every problem is answered by "it's in the CVS version"
but we're not supposed to use the CVS version because it's not stable.
When is the next stable release scheduled?
On Sun, Apr 13, 2003 at 09:01:31PM +0200, Jiri Kuthan wrote:
At 08:53 PM 4/13/2003, Steve Lewis wrote:
Im interesting in experimenting with ENUM in
conjunction with Ser and was wondering if there is support for enum within ser.
There is ENUM support in the CVS version of SER (not yet in a stable release).
We've been reported people used it successfuly.
-Jiri
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3:57 a.m.
At 01:56 AM 4/17/2003, David Beckemeyer wrote:
It seems like every problem is answered by
"it's in the CVS version"
but we're not supposed to use the CVS version because it's not stable.
When is the next stable release scheduled?
The new release is scheduled to be out as soon as we complete internal
introductory tests and the user community tests the server too.
Again: combination of "new features", "for free", and
"instantly" wishes
is easy to understand but hardly achievable. You will need to give up
on one of them, guess which is my favorite candidate.
-Jiri
ps -- feel free to use CVS, that's why it is on the Internet for you.
I just want to make sure that you don't expect unrealistic safety
from a car you pulled out of assembly line before it entered the
air-bag station.
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