17 Jun
17 Jun
7:22 p.m.
New subject: [Users] Re: [Serusers] OpenSER release
Hello Max,
On 06/17/05 15:42, Max Malloy wrote:
Dear Bogdan, Dear Daniel,
as a user of SER for a number of years I very much appreciate your
work and effort to liberate SER from the clutches of iptelorg.com and
its microsoft llike attitude. I am sure it was not easy for you to
stand-up against those who have paid your salary for so long and given
you the chance to collect the knowledgy and software upon which you
have built your own company.
you are right about collecting knowledge, but, fwi, the work there was
related to different research projects, and SER was more a side effect.
If you can review the cvs logs, many contributions of us were made in
our free time, many features in SER were never used in a project of the
institute. Because we lived at that time paid by the institute, all the
code (also the one made in our free time) is copyrighted by the institute.
I also agree with you that it is utterly rude of the
Fraunhofer as the
maintainer of the iptel.org site to make a reference to its start-up
-the fact that Fraunhofer has invested so much (including your
salaries I assume) does not give it the right to do so.
I do not agree with you, they have the right and can do what they want,
they own the system. The issue was whether this is acceptable or not for
the community.
Are you planning to extend openSER with the VNT and
the VPS products
you have announced on your web site? As a user of SER and I guess a
lot of other users as well have painfully been longing to a billing
engine that can just do these things your products are promising. A
better support for NAT traversal would also be nice.
Let's not mix the things. It is about free contributions. It does not
mean I will make everything I own public. Would you give me your car?
There are stand alone applications, different software or products, and
I do not think everybody is going to give their products for free even
they support open source or openser, in particular. Dont expect that you
will have a nice live just supporting openser so everybody will give you
what you will need. Would you share the earnings of using this software
with the others?
You have to contribute to get back something, this is how open source
works. People work together for mutual benefits.
I would recommend to put these parts under the BSD
license.
It is not possible, it is not compatible with GPL license. One would
have to write a new ser from scratch to do so.
Our company would like to build an NGN product that
would benefit
greatly from your components. iptelorg has insisted on us paying
money for any source code they produce -it seems they still did not
realize that they do not own SER -SER and all its extensions belong
to the users and the community.
You are not right at all, you own your code and extensions, not others.
As you can see, every file has a copyright holder which own the code. He
can do what ever he wants to do, you can do also (take and modify), but
do not expect that iptelorg or somebody else to do for you something for
free when you require.
The issue which generated this situation was related to free
contributions. When someone wants to make something available for
others, and users need it and it is something good, why to drop it.
So, let's analyze and interpret better the reality.
Regards,
Daniel
My best regards
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