14 Jul
2006
14 Jul
'06
7:15 p.m.
I am a SER starter.
I have seen many subjects related to Openser.
Can someone shed a light on what are the differences between these?
And even some insights to suggest which may be better than the other?
We are planing to start business service shortly and we appreciate any
inputs on which SIP server infrastructure provides better performance and
scalability.
Thank you in advance.
John K.
16 Jul
16 Jul
12:06 p.m.
Well, trying to be a bit objective:
1. It depends on your needs
2. OpenSER has a more aggressive release policy (more newer features),
meaning that openser contains more functions and modules than ser
3. Latest SER is 0.9.x and is extremely stable
4. Openser 0.9.x and ser 0.9.x are (almost) close to identical. From
0.10 they start to diverge. SER 0.10 is not yet released, OpenSER has
reached 1.1
5. The type of features/functionality included in SER and openser are
likely to be quite different
6. OpenSER is currently better documented in the latest version
Have a look at the onsip.org Getting Started guide for more detail on
history.
g-)
Chahn John Kim wrote:
I am a SER starter.
I have seen many subjects related to Openser.
Can someone shed a light on what are the differences between these?
And even some insights to suggest which may be better than the other?
We are planing to start business service shortly and we appreciate any
inputs on which SIP server infrastructure provides better performance and
scalability.
Thank you in advance.
John K.
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17 Jul
17 Jul
3:33 p.m.
I would say that SER has been capable of making major design steps, such as
sanity overhaul of the underlying database structure, TCP processing,
timers, select operators, and so on.
The down-side is that those features have not yet been documented.
-jiri
At 12:06 16/07/2006, Greger V. Teigre wrote:
Well, trying to be a bit objective:
1. It depends on your needs
2. OpenSER has a more aggressive release policy (more newer features),
meaning that openser contains more functions and modules than ser
3. Latest SER is 0.9.x and is extremely stable
4. Openser 0.9.x and ser 0.9.x are (almost) close to identical. From
0.10 they start to diverge. SER 0.10 is not yet released, OpenSER has
reached 1.1
5. The type of features/functionality included in SER and openser are
likely to be quite different
6. OpenSER is currently better documented in the latest version
Have a look at the onsip.org Getting Started guide for more detail on
history.
g-)
Chahn John Kim wrote:
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Jiri Kuthan http://iptel.org/~jiri/
I am a SER starter.
I have seen many subjects related to Openser.
Can someone shed a light on what are the differences between these?
And even some insights to suggest which may be better than the other?
We are planing to start business service shortly and we appreciate any
inputs on which SIP server infrastructure provides better performance and
scalability.
Thank you in advance.
John K.
_______________________________________________
Serusers mailing list
Serusers(a)lists.iptel.org
http://lists.iptel.org/mailman/listinfo/serusers
_______________________________________________
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Serusers(a)lists.iptel.org
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18 Jul
18 Jul
9:35 p.m.
actually xml-rpc and various AVP tracks should have been mentioned for sake
of completeness. Like with the other ones: that's good featrues but they
are sporadically documented.
-jiri
At 15:33 17/07/2006, Jiri Kuthan wrote:
I would say that SER has been capable of making major
design steps, such as
sanity overhaul of the underlying database structure, TCP processing,
timers, select operators, and so on.
The down-side is that those features have not yet been documented.
-jiri
At 12:06 16/07/2006, Greger V. Teigre wrote:
--
Jiri Kuthan http://iptel.org/~jiri/
Well, trying to be a bit objective:
1. It depends on your needs
2. OpenSER has a more aggressive release policy (more newer features),
meaning that openser contains more functions and modules than ser
3. Latest SER is 0.9.x and is extremely stable
4. Openser 0.9.x and ser 0.9.x are (almost) close to identical. From
0.10 they start to diverge. SER 0.10 is not yet released, OpenSER has
reached 1.1
5. The type of features/functionality included in SER and openser are
likely to be quite different
6. OpenSER is currently better documented in the latest version
Have a look at the onsip.org Getting Started guide for more detail on
history.
g-)
Chahn John Kim wrote:
--
Jiri Kuthan http://iptel.org/~jiri/ I am a SER starter.
I have seen many subjects related to Openser.
Can someone shed a light on what are the differences between these?
And even some insights to suggest which may be better than the other?
We are planing to start business service shortly and we appreciate any
inputs on which SIP server infrastructure provides better performance and
scalability.
Thank you in advance.
John K.
_______________________________________________
Serusers mailing list
Serusers(a)lists.iptel.org
http://lists.iptel.org/mailman/listinfo/serusers
_______________________________________________
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Serusers(a)lists.iptel.org
http://lists.iptel.org/mailman/listinfo/serusers 
19 Jul
19 Jul
11:40 a.m.
I will add few remarks related to project's policy and evolution.
OpenSER is driven by a board with members from different companies which
will ensure project's independence and survival when one company changes
its interest in the public project. Also, the project has a clear
roadmap, major changes being discussed on development mailing list.
People leading the project are two of the five core developers of SER
and four main contributors of SER.
The release policy is guided by changes and it is about one major
release every 6-8 months. This type of releasing allow easy migration
from older version to new one, otherwise the administrators will have
nightmares to update to totally new configuration and database structure
- small steps guarantee better results when dealing with production
environments.
The contributions are accepted if they follow a recognized standard from
IETF/ITU/ETSI or other standardization groups, or is general interesting
feature. No company can stop it for private interest.
In this way we are able to implement geographic distributed VoIP
platforms with the latest OpenSER, have a significant number of database
types supported as backend via the unixodbc module in the stable
version, these and may others only from third party contributions. Other
important scalability features added in about one year of OpenSER:
number of location entries which can be managed by OpenSER compiled with
default flags grew from about 4000 entries as it was when it forked from
SER to about 120 000, and now this number scales linear with available
memory (for 120000 online users, OpenSER uses about 40MB memory, while
the old architecture required about 256MB). I am sure you can find more
on project's web site ...
Cheers,
Daniel
On 07/16/06 13:06, Greger V. Teigre wrote:
Well, trying to be a bit objective:
1. It depends on your needs
2. OpenSER has a more aggressive release policy (more newer features),
meaning that openser contains more functions and modules than ser
3. Latest SER is 0.9.x and is extremely stable
4. Openser 0.9.x and ser 0.9.x are (almost) close to identical. From
0.10 they start to diverge. SER 0.10 is not yet released, OpenSER has
reached 1.1
5. The type of features/functionality included in SER and openser are
likely to be quite different
6. OpenSER is currently better documented in the latest version
Have a look at the onsip.org Getting Started guide for more detail on
history.
g-)
Chahn John Kim wrote:
I am a SER starter.
I have seen many subjects related to Openser.
Can someone shed a light on what are the differences between these?
And even some insights to suggest which may be better than the other?
We are planing to start business service shortly and we appreciate any
inputs on which SIP server infrastructure provides better performance and
scalability.
Thank you in advance.
John K.
_______________________________________________
Serusers mailing list
Serusers(a)lists.iptel.org
http://lists.iptel.org/mailman/listinfo/serusers
_______________________________________________
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Serusers(a)lists.iptel.org
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25 Jul
25 Jul
2:15 a.m.
At 11:40 19/07/2006, Daniel-Constantin Mierla wrote:
I will add few remarks related to project's policy
and evolution.
OpenSER is driven by a board with members from different companies which
will ensure project's independence and survival when one company changes
its interest in the public project.
As this is going to the ser mailing list, I would like to take the freedom
to present a quite different approach which has shown very viable in SER
history. That is, SER has been developed by consistent team of long-term key
developers spending their full-time job on SER's evolution. They have been able
to steer SER's direction since its inception till today in moderately
growing capacity. Despite the logo of the employer has changed over the time,
all key members remained on board, provided continuity and took care to
integrate third-party contributions in the software suite in a consistent manner.
Employer's interest has been playing role in that it has been providing strong
field feedback from customer but that's, to be clear, a feature.
Even if "openser" claims to be different, solely by the fact of taking
vast amounts of SER code, it basically acknowledges the SER results which
have been generated the way they have been generated.
Also, I'm glad the point of 'incremental easy-to-execute updates' was raised.
Clearly, I consider a revised data model in SER a superior change which was
overdue and which has greatly improved applicability of the software. The price for
it is devising good migration procedures but that appears to me a kind of one-time
pain, as opposed to the pain-level associated with living with an outdated data
model. The other downside of such fundmanetal changes is longer release cycle
but that still appears very acceptable trade-off to me.
-jiri
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