14 Feb
2004
14 Feb
'04
1:21 p.m.
Maxim,
Managed DNS platform (based in Amsterdam) provides all required
functions to managed User or Infrastructure ENUM in a controlled
environment.
The system went through an 8 months trial period and the results will
be presented on the 24-th of February at ETSI
http://www.etsi.org/plugtests/02UpcomingEvents/ENUMWORKSHOP.htm
The system entered in production phase just last week.
See www.ag-projects.com for more information.
---
Adrian Georgescu
ag-projects.com
>>>>>>
Folks,
One of our clients asks us if we can set up ENUM
client for him, so that his customers are able to
call users in big free and commercial VoIP SIP
networks.
He claims that at least some of them already have
ENUM zones delegated to them and operating.
Can somebody shed some light on current state
of ENUM and whether or not it is feasible to use
it now.
Thanks!
-Maxim
15 Mar
15 Mar
1:32 p.m.
i'm reading old emails. we have official e164.arpa zones delegated in
finland for our landline and also for some mobile network numbers. for
example,
harjus:~/tut% host -t naptr 0.5.4.9.2.1.4.6.8.5.3.e164.arpa.
0.5.4.9.2.1.4.6.8.5.3.e164.arpa NAPTR 1 1 "u" "E2U+sip"
"!^.*$!sip:+35864129450@tutpro.com!i" .
-- juha
2:46 p.m.
I was excited about an enum movement a few months ago.
Would enum work if someone volunteered to forward
requests? I think I can build a bind installation
that would forward requests to the right party. Is
anyone doing something like that? I'd do it.
---greg
Juha Heinanen wrote:
i'm reading old emails. we have official
e164.arpa zones delegated in
finland for our landline and also for some mobile network numbers. for
example,
harjus:~/tut% host -t naptr 0.5.4.9.2.1.4.6.8.5.3.e164.arpa.
0.5.4.9.2.1.4.6.8.5.3.e164.arpa NAPTR 1 1 "u" "E2U+sip"
"!^.*$!sip:+35864129450@tutpro.com!i" .
-- juha
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16 Mar
16 Mar
12:22 a.m.
Greg, what do you mean precisely with:
bind installation that would forward requests to the
right party.
Adrian
On 15 Mar 2004, at 14:46, Greg Fausak wrote:
I was excited about an enum movement a few months
ago.
Would enum work if someone volunteered to forward
requests? I think I can build a bind installation
that would forward requests to the right party.
Is
anyone doing something like that? I'd do it.
---greg
Juha Heinanen wrote:
i'm reading old emails. we have official
e164.arpa zones delegated in
finland for our landline and also for some mobile network numbers.
for
example,
harjus:~/tut% host -t naptr 0.5.4.9.2.1.4.6.8.5.3.e164.arpa.
0.5.4.9.2.1.4.6.8.5.3.e164.arpa NAPTR 1 1 "u" "E2U+sip"
"!^.*$!sip:+35864129450@tutpro.com!i" .
-- juha
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1:11 a.m.
Adrian Georgescu wrote:
Greg, what do you mean precisely with:
It seems to me that while ENUM is great, and it
does wonderful things, it doesn't help unless I can use
it to direct a call to a SIP proxy. I've been waiting for
a year now for .arpa (or someone) to do the root
enum service. Do we really need to wait? Can't I put
together a forwarding server that forwards your ENUM
lookup to your server?
I envision building a forwarding server. Then anyone that
has an ENUM server can 'register' thier authority with my
forwarding server. When I get an enum lookup (for a e164 number)
I forward it to the correct ENUM server. That would give us
one ENUM server to query for anyone's e164 number, and it
gives the authority on the number to the ITSP (or whoever).
I have been using ENUM internally for some time. The SER
ENUM support is great, it works...I'd just like to be able to
deliver a call to, for instance, fwd. Of course I can set up
a prefix and say 'if the first 7 digits are 1010393' then send
it to fwd.pulver.com. Something much more elegant would be
to do a ENUM lookup at enum.neutralhost.com.
I would be willing to put a neutralhost.com together and forward
ENUM requests to the appropriate ENUM DNS server is anyone
is interested. I feel like I must be missing something?
---greg
bind installation that would forward requests to
the right party.
Adrian
On 15 Mar 2004, at 14:46, Greg Fausak wrote:
I was excited about an enum movement a few months
ago.
Would enum work if someone volunteered to forward
requests? I think I can build a bind installation
that would forward requests to the right party.
Is
anyone doing something like that? I'd do it.
---greg
Juha Heinanen wrote:
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i'm reading old emails. we have official
e164.arpa zones delegated in
finland for our landline and also for some mobile network numbers. for
example,
harjus:~/tut% host -t naptr 0.5.4.9.2.1.4.6.8.5.3.e164.arpa.
0.5.4.9.2.1.4.6.8.5.3.e164.arpa NAPTR 1 1 "u" "E2U+sip"
"!^.*$!sip:+35864129450@tutpro.com!i" .
-- juha
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8:41 a.m.
Hi Greg,
There is an ongoing project like this using freenum.org TLD. We use it
to provide access to 0800 numbers in various countries. You may of
course put up together any TLD for this, the problem is just getting
enough interest and subsequently scale up your business to support
delegation requests. There are various requirements you have to fulfill
like high availability, disaster recovery etc... Then, when you try to
become Tier1 you will certainly be on collision course with many. I
would not like to be in that position, nevertheless you may give it a
try, we can all learn from it.
Last but not least ENUM is not just about DNS hosting. To see what I
mean, take a look at my presentation for NAPTR record manipulation from
RIPE: http://www.ag-projects.com/NAPTR/NAPTRRecordManipulation.ppt
Adrian
On 16 Mar 2004, at 01:11, Greg Fausak wrote:
Adrian Georgescu wrote:
Greg, what do you mean precisely with:
> bind installation that would forward requests to the right party.
It seems to me that while ENUM is great, and it
does wonderful things, it doesn't help unless I can use
it to direct a call to a SIP proxy. I've been waiting for
a year now for .arpa (or someone) to do the root
enum service. Do we really need to wait? Can't I put
together a forwarding server that forwards your ENUM
lookup to your server?
I envision building a forwarding server. Then anyone that
has an ENUM server can 'register' thier authority with my
forwarding server. When I get an enum lookup (for a e164 number)
I forward it to the correct ENUM server. That would give us
one ENUM server to query for anyone's e164 number, and it
gives the authority on the number to the ITSP (or whoever).
I have been using ENUM internally for some time. The SER
ENUM support is great, it works...I'd just like to be able to
deliver a call to, for instance, fwd. Of course I can set up
a prefix and say 'if the first 7 digits are 1010393' then send
it to fwd.pulver.com. Something much more elegant would be
to do a ENUM lookup at enum.neutralhost.com.
I would be willing to put a neutralhost.com together and forward
ENUM requests to the appropriate ENUM DNS server is anyone
is interested. I feel like I must be missing something?
---greg
Adrian
On 15 Mar 2004, at 14:46, Greg Fausak wrote:
I was excited about an enum movement a few months
ago.
Would enum work if someone volunteered to forward
requests? I think I can build a bind installation
that would forward requests to the right party.
Is
anyone doing something like that? I'd do it.
---greg
Juha Heinanen wrote:
_______________________________________________
Serusers mailing list
serusers(a)lists.iptel.org
http://lists.iptel.org/mailman/listinfo/serusers i'm reading old emails. we have official
e164.arpa zones delegated
in
finland for our landline and also for some mobile network numbers.
for
example,
harjus:~/tut% host -t naptr 0.5.4.9.2.1.4.6.8.5.3.e164.arpa.
0.5.4.9.2.1.4.6.8.5.3.e164.arpa NAPTR 1 1 "u" "E2U+sip"
"!^.*$!sip:+35864129450@tutpro.com!i" .
-- juha
_______________________________________________
Serusers mailing list
serusers(a)lists.iptel.org
http://lists.iptel.org/mailman/listinfo/serusers
17 Mar
17 Mar
2:47 p.m.
Adrian Georgescu wrote:
Hi Greg,
There is an ongoing project like this using freenum.org TLD. We use it
to provide access to 0800 numbers in various countries. You may of
course put up together any TLD for this, the problem is just getting
enough interest and subsequently scale up your business to support
delegation requests. There are various requirements you have to fulfill
like high availability, disaster recovery etc... Then, when you try to
become Tier1 you will certainly be on collision course with many. I
would not like to be in that position, nevertheless you may give it a
try, we can all learn from it.
Last but not least ENUM is not just about DNS hosting. To see what I
mean, take a look at my presentation for NAPTR record manipulation from
RIPE: http://www.ag-projects.com/NAPTR/NAPTRRecordManipulation.ppt
Adrian,
Thanks for your follow up. High availability and disaster recovery
are par for the course. I own an ISP, we do that with all of
our services.
I realize that ENUM is a big deal. I just want to
use ENUM to lookup the SIP server to send a call request to.
It seems that day is a long way off.
I don't want to be a tier1 provider, I just want to get this thing
going. Why can't a group of people just work together to provide
a combined ENUM service? it doesn't have to be a business, it
just needs to be a common registration spot for reverse delegation.
I would provide hardware/software/bandwidth/hosting for such an endevor.
---greg
Adrian
On 16 Mar 2004, at 01:11, Greg Fausak wrote:
Adrian Georgescu wrote:
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Greg, what do you mean precisely with:
> bind installation that would forward requests to the right party.
It seems to me that while ENUM is great, and it
does wonderful things, it doesn't help unless I can use
it to direct a call to a SIP proxy. I've been waiting for
a year now for .arpa (or someone) to do the root
enum service. Do we really need to wait? Can't I put
together a forwarding server that forwards your ENUM
lookup to your server?
I envision building a forwarding server. Then anyone that
has an ENUM server can 'register' thier authority with my
forwarding server. When I get an enum lookup (for a e164 number)
I forward it to the correct ENUM server. That would give us
one ENUM server to query for anyone's e164 number, and it
gives the authority on the number to the ITSP (or whoever).
I have been using ENUM internally for some time. The SER
ENUM support is great, it works...I'd just like to be able to
deliver a call to, for instance, fwd. Of course I can set up
a prefix and say 'if the first 7 digits are 1010393' then send
it to fwd.pulver.com. Something much more elegant would be
to do a ENUM lookup at enum.neutralhost.com.
I would be willing to put a neutralhost.com together and forward
ENUM requests to the appropriate ENUM DNS server is anyone
is interested. I feel like I must be missing something?
---greg
Adrian
On 15 Mar 2004, at 14:46, Greg Fausak wrote:
I was excited about an enum movement a few months
ago.
Would enum work if someone volunteered to forward
requests? I think I can build a bind installation
that would forward requests to the right party.
Is
anyone doing something like that? I'd do it.
---greg
Juha Heinanen wrote:
> i'm reading old emails. we have official e164.arpa zones delegated in
> finland for our landline and also for some mobile network numbers.
> for
> example,
> harjus:~/tut% host -t naptr 0.5.4.9.2.1.4.6.8.5.3.e164.arpa.
> 0.5.4.9.2.1.4.6.8.5.3.e164.arpa NAPTR 1 1 "u" "E2U+sip"
> "!^.*$!sip:+35864129450@tutpro.com!i" .
> -- juha
> _______________________________________________
> Serusers mailing list
> serusers(a)lists.iptel.org
> http://lists.iptel.org/mailman/listinfo/serusers
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15 Mar
11:03 p.m.
This sounds great, should anyone want to give it a try to manage some
of those number with Managed DNS platform, let me know.
Adrian
On 15 Mar 2004, at 13:32, Juha Heinanen wrote:
i'm reading old emails. we have official
e164.arpa zones delegated in
finland for our landline and also for some mobile network numbers. for
example,
harjus:~/tut% host -t naptr 0.5.4.9.2.1.4.6.8.5.3.e164.arpa.
0.5.4.9.2.1.4.6.8.5.3.e164.arpa NAPTR 1 1 "u" "E2U+sip"
"!^.*$!sip:+35864129450@tutpro.com!i" .
-- juha
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