Hello Everybody,
We are pleased to announce to you the SIP Router project.
It aims to build a solid open source SIP routing platform, based on collaboration of the SIP Express Router (SER) and Kamailio (OpenSER) teams.
Developers of these two projects believe that an united and non-conflicting environment will bring many benefits to them, community members and companies:
* bring together the developers and user communities of both projects * reduce maintenance overhead * avoid duplicated efforts in development * develop a core framework that is flexible, extensible and scalable * promote and build a solid open source SIP server project * ensure business credibility * make future forking undesirable, this harms everybody, affects credibility and business
You are welcome to join! Visit the web site at:
There is a meeting in Karlsruhe, Germany, on Nov 10, 2008, hosted by 1&1, where the developers and community members have the chance to discuss and tune the last aspects of the new project. We are looking to see many of you there: http://sip-router.org/index.php/meeting/
We hope this is a great news for you, thanks to the effort of main developers and management teams of the two projects. We invite you to join the new mailing list for further discussions:
http://lists.sip-router.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sr-dev
Daniel, Jiri Kamailio Management Team SER Management Team
That's great, the fork is away after a long time. Sounds very good for me and probably for the community.
A happy Ser user
Olivier
Daniel-Constantin Mierla a écrit :
Hello Everybody,
We are pleased to announce to you the SIP Router project.
It aims to build a solid open source SIP routing platform, based on collaboration of the SIP Express Router (SER) and Kamailio (OpenSER) teams.
Developers of these two projects believe that an united and non-conflicting environment will bring many benefits to them, community members and companies:
* bring together the developers and user communities of both projects * reduce maintenance overhead * avoid duplicated efforts in development * develop a core framework that is flexible, extensible and scalable * promote and build a solid open source SIP server project * ensure business credibility * make future forking undesirable, this harms everybody, affectscredibility and business
You are welcome to join! Visit the web site at:
There is a meeting in Karlsruhe, Germany, on Nov 10, 2008, hosted by 1&1, where the developers and community members have the chance to discuss and tune the last aspects of the new project. We are looking to see many of you there: http://sip-router.org/index.php/meeting/
We hope this is a great news for you, thanks to the effort of main developers and management teams of the two projects. We invite you to join the new mailing list for further discussions:
http://lists.sip-router.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sr-dev
Daniel, Jiri Kamailio Management Team SER Management Team
Users mailing list Users@lists.kamailio.org http://lists.kamailio.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/users
That's great, the fork is away after a long time. Sounds very good for me and probably for the community.
A happy Ser user
Olivier
Daniel-Constantin Mierla a écrit :
Hello Everybody,
We are pleased to announce to you the SIP Router project.
It aims to build a solid open source SIP routing platform, based on collaboration of the SIP Express Router (SER) and Kamailio (OpenSER) teams.
Developers of these two projects believe that an united and non-conflicting environment will bring many benefits to them, community members and companies:
* bring together the developers and user communities of both projects * reduce maintenance overhead * avoid duplicated efforts in development * develop a core framework that is flexible, extensible and scalable * promote and build a solid open source SIP server project * ensure business credibility * make future forking undesirable, this harms everybody, affectscredibility and business
You are welcome to join! Visit the web site at:
There is a meeting in Karlsruhe, Germany, on Nov 10, 2008, hosted by 1&1, where the developers and community members have the chance to discuss and tune the last aspects of the new project. We are looking to see many of you there: http://sip-router.org/index.php/meeting/
We hope this is a great news for you, thanks to the effort of main developers and management teams of the two projects. We invite you to join the new mailing list for further discussions:
http://lists.sip-router.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sr-dev
Daniel, Jiri Kamailio Management Team SER Management Team
Users mailing list Users@lists.kamailio.org http://lists.kamailio.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/users
Great to hear these news . Unity is much better.
Regards
On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 9:52 AM, hh174 olivier@hh174.be wrote:
That's great, the fork is away after a long time. Sounds very good for me and probably for the community.
A happy Ser user
Olivier
Daniel-Constantin Mierla a écrit :
Hello Everybody,
We are pleased to announce to you the SIP Router project.
It aims to build a solid open source SIP routing platform, based on collaboration of the SIP Express Router (SER) and Kamailio (OpenSER)
teams.
Developers of these two projects believe that an united and non-conflicting environment will bring many benefits to them, community members and companies:
* bring together the developers and user communities of both projects * reduce maintenance overhead * avoid duplicated efforts in development * develop a core framework that is flexible, extensible and scalable * promote and build a solid open source SIP server project * ensure business credibility * make future forking undesirable, this harms everybody, affectscredibility and business
You are welcome to join! Visit the web site at:
There is a meeting in Karlsruhe, Germany, on Nov 10, 2008, hosted by 1&1, where the developers and community members have the chance to discuss and tune the last aspects of the new project. We are looking to see many of you there: http://sip-router.org/index.php/meeting/
We hope this is a great news for you, thanks to the effort of main developers and management teams of the two projects. We invite you to join the new mailing list for further discussions:
http://lists.sip-router.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sr-dev
Daniel, Jiri Kamailio Management Team SER Management Team
Users mailing list Users@lists.kamailio.org http://lists.kamailio.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/users
Users mailing list Users@lists.kamailio.org http://lists.kamailio.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/users
Congratulations to both projects!
I think this is very beneificial for both communities as well as for all the companies out there using the two products.
I am very happy with this result and hope that the third kid in the SER family - OpenSIPS - will consider joining the effort too.
Best regards, /Olle
Hi Olle,
Thank you for your thoughts. On a first view, it looks interesting, but I'm missing some points here (important points):
1) as OpenSER was forked from SER because different views (and the OpenSER view proved to be a very popular and successful one), I wonder why, Kamilio is getting back to SER? not sharing any more the OpenSER view as claimed? because such merging will definitely have a great impact on the dynamical and openness of the projects (like releases, contributions, driving the project)
2) this major change of perspective (at least for kamilio) was a backstage decision, kept secret from the community - shouldn't be in the interest of the community to say if going back to the roots (merging into SER) is something wanted or not? it somehow contradicts the self existence of OpenSER, right?
3) the benefits you mentions are mainly optimization of the internal project activities and not optimizations of the outcome - what the project will deliver. And I guess this is the most important. We already went though the experience of large devel community, frameworks, etc but with no outcome for more than 2 years...
From my personal perspective, the new project looks more like SER absorbing Kamilio (considering the sizes, the companies behind each
project, the resources, and the man-power behind each project).
And at the moment I would like preserve the OpenSER vision and to have an open source project (a standalone one), far away from the "control" of any Big Brother ;)
Regards, Bogdan
Johansson Olle E wrote:
Congratulations to both projects!
I think this is very beneificial for both communities as well as for all the companies out there using the two products.
I am very happy with this result and hope that the third kid in the SER family - OpenSIPS - will consider joining the effort too.
Best regards, /Olle
Users mailing list Users@lists.kamailio.org http://lists.kamailio.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/users
4 nov 2008 kl. 16.24 skrev Bogdan-Andrei Iancu:
Hi Olle,
Thank you for your thoughts. On a first view, it looks interesting, but I'm missing some points here (important points):
- as OpenSER was forked from SER because different views (and the
OpenSER view proved to be a very popular and successful one), I wonder why, Kamilio is getting back to SER? not sharing any more the OpenSER view as claimed? because such merging will definitely have a great impact on the dynamical and openness of the projects (like releases, contributions, driving the project)
- this major change of perspective (at least for kamilio) was a
backstage decision, kept secret from the community - shouldn't be in the interest of the community to say if going back to the roots (merging into SER) is something wanted or not? it somehow contradicts the self existence of OpenSER, right?
- the benefits you mentions are mainly optimization of the internal
project activities and not optimizations of the outcome - what the project will deliver. And I guess this is the most important. We already went though the experience of large devel community, frameworks, etc but with no outcome for more than 2 years...
From my personal perspective, the new project looks more like SER absorbing Kamilio (considering the sizes, the companies behind each
project, the resources, and the man-power behind each project).
And at the moment I would like preserve the OpenSER vision and to have an open source project (a standalone one), far away from the "control" of any Big Brother ;)
Bogdan, Thanks for your feedback, which clearly indicates where you stand today. We will have to see what the community says, but so far, I've only seen cheers and applauds.
How this will work out in the future is something no one really can guess at this point. The more people that joins this effort and forms it, the better. The time to make it right is now, by working together and aligning the codebases as described, then working towards the future with new releases.
We'll see if the combined forces can produce any deliverys or not. Today, we can only hope and guess.
I think it's a great starting point that they have started talking, and agreed to work together on some parts. To me, it seems to be room for two final products stil, sharing the same core. One Kamailio and one SER.
After the developer meetings, I think it's time to call for a joint community meeting to have people active in the community - not only developers - in the same room, discussing benefits of working together.
I don't want to argue your standpoint, just hope that you will follow the progress and see if there's some benefits for OpenSIPS to join at some stage. Regardless, the GPL license allows you to benefit from the work as always.
I might be naive, but I do have a positive feeling about this :-)
/O
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On Tue, 2008-11-04 at 16:46 +0100, Johansson Olle E wrote:
4 nov 2008 kl. 16.24 skrev Bogdan-Andrei Iancu:
Hi Olle,
Thank you for your thoughts. On a first view, it looks
interesting,
but I'm missing some points here (important points):
- as OpenSER was forked from SER because different views (and the
OpenSER view proved to be a very popular and successful one), I wonder why, Kamilio is getting back to SER? not sharing any more
the
OpenSER view as claimed? because such merging will definitely have
a
great impact on the dynamical and openness of the projects (like releases, contributions, driving the project)
- this major change of perspective (at least for kamilio) was a
backstage decision, kept secret from the community - shouldn't be
in
the interest of the community to say if going back to the roots (merging into SER) is something wanted or not? it somehow contradicts the self existence of OpenSER, right?
- the benefits you mentions are mainly optimization of the
internal
project activities and not optimizations of the outcome - what the project will deliver. And I guess this is the most important. We already went though the experience of large devel community, frameworks, etc but with no outcome for more than 2 years...
From my personal perspective, the new project looks more like SER absorbing Kamilio (considering the sizes, the companies behind each
project, the resources, and the man-power behind each project).
And at the moment I would like preserve the OpenSER vision and to have an open source project (a standalone one), far away from the "control" of any Big Brother ;)
Bogdan, Thanks for your feedback, which clearly indicates where you stand today. We will have to see what the community says, but so far, I've only seen cheers and applauds.
How this will work out in the future is something no one really can guess at this point. The more people that joins this effort and forms it, the better. The time to make it right is now, by working together and aligning the codebases as described, then working towards the future with new releases.
We'll see if the combined forces can produce any deliverys or not. Today, we can only hope and guess.
I think it's a great starting point that they have started talking, and agreed to work together on some parts. To me, it seems to be room for two final products stil, sharing the same core. One Kamailio and one SER.
After the developer meetings, I think it's time to call for a joint community meeting to have people active in the community - not only developers - in the same room, discussing benefits of working together.
I don't want to argue your standpoint, just hope that you will follow the progress and see if there's some benefits for OpenSIPS to join at some stage. Regardless, the GPL license allows you to benefit from the work as always.
I might be naive, but I do have a positive feeling about this :-)
/O _______________________________________________ Serusers mailing list Serusers@lists.iptel.org http://lists.iptel.org/mailman/listinfo/serusers
Olle,
I agree that merging Kamailio into SER is a good move, but experience taught me that the first impression is not all the time relevant. OpenSER project was not well received at the begining, but after some time, people were happy about it. Same with OpenSIPS - people failed to understand from the first minute the idea behind, but they did and they are happy.
But let's see the future deliverables and then decide.
For the moment there is too much noise - politics, discussions, re-organizing, hot topics, etc - but few results (on technical side).
Thanks and regards, Bogdan
Johansson Olle E wrote:
From my personal perspective, the new project looks more like SER absorbing Kamilio (considering the sizes, the companies behind each
project, the resources, and the man-power behind each project).
And at the moment I would like preserve the OpenSER vision and to have an open source project (a standalone one), far away from the "control" of any Big Brother ;)
Bogdan, Thanks for your feedback, which clearly indicates where you stand today. We will have to see what the community says, but so far, I've only seen cheers and applauds.
How this will work out in the future is something no one really can guess at this point. The more people that joins this effort and forms it, the better. The time to make it right is now, by working together and aligning the codebases as described, then working towards the future with new releases.
We'll see if the combined forces can produce any deliverys or not. Today, we can only hope and guess.
I think it's a great starting point that they have started talking, and agreed to work together on some parts. To me, it seems to be room for two final products stil, sharing the same core. One Kamailio and one SER.
After the developer meetings, I think it's time to call for a joint community meeting to have people active in the community - not only developers - in the same room, discussing benefits of working together.
I don't want to argue your standpoint, just hope that you will follow the progress and see if there's some benefits for OpenSIPS to join at some stage. Regardless, the GPL license allows you to benefit from the work as always.
I might be naive, but I do have a positive feeling about this :-)
/O
Thank you Olle,
I think your positive note is very encouraging.
I'm similarly concerned about the actual outcome -- planning and striving for it is one thing, executing it yet another thing on our busy to-do-lists. Nevertheless the willingness to work hard on it is very tangible and I really consider it realistic. And I'm willing to bet on its success too :)
I would very much discount conspiracy, absorption and other discouraging and ungrounded concerns. In fact, if there is something which appears hard to follow, why Bogdan forked off SER with many strong arguments to openser, and now forked off from his openser to opensips with arguments remarkably similar to the former.
"Serial forking" is not the kind of business I'm interested here at all. In fact, I think forking is a VERY BAD THING to do and I'm very strongly opposed to attempts discouraging unforking and encouraging other forks. More funded opinions than mine can be for example found here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fork_%28software_development%29
Therefore thanks again to anyone putting effort on unforking!
-jiri
Johansson Olle E wrote:
4 nov 2008 kl. 16.24 skrev Bogdan-Andrei Iancu:
Hi Olle,
Thank you for your thoughts. On a first view, it looks interesting, but I'm missing some points here (important points):
- as OpenSER was forked from SER because different views (and the
OpenSER view proved to be a very popular and successful one), I wonder why, Kamilio is getting back to SER? not sharing any more the OpenSER view as claimed? because such merging will definitely have a great impact on the dynamical and openness of the projects (like releases, contributions, driving the project)
- this major change of perspective (at least for kamilio) was a
backstage decision, kept secret from the community - shouldn't be in the interest of the community to say if going back to the roots (merging into SER) is something wanted or not? it somehow contradicts the self existence of OpenSER, right?
- the benefits you mentions are mainly optimization of the internal
project activities and not optimizations of the outcome - what the project will deliver. And I guess this is the most important. We already went though the experience of large devel community, frameworks, etc but with no outcome for more than 2 years...
From my personal perspective, the new project looks more like SER absorbing Kamilio (considering the sizes, the companies behind each
project, the resources, and the man-power behind each project).
And at the moment I would like preserve the OpenSER vision and to have an open source project (a standalone one), far away from the "control" of any Big Brother ;)
Bogdan, Thanks for your feedback, which clearly indicates where you stand today. We will have to see what the community says, but so far, I've only seen cheers and applauds.
How this will work out in the future is something no one really can guess at this point. The more people that joins this effort and forms it, the better. The time to make it right is now, by working together and aligning the codebases as described, then working towards the future with new releases.
We'll see if the combined forces can produce any deliverys or not. Today, we can only hope and guess.
I think it's a great starting point that they have started talking, and agreed to work together on some parts. To me, it seems to be room for two final products stil, sharing the same core. One Kamailio and one SER.
After the developer meetings, I think it's time to call for a joint community meeting to have people active in the community - not only developers - in the same room, discussing benefits of working together.
I don't want to argue your standpoint, just hope that you will follow the progress and see if there's some benefits for OpenSIPS to join at some stage. Regardless, the GPL license allows you to benefit from the work as always.
I might be naive, but I do have a positive feeling about this :-)
/O
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Hello,
On 11/04/08 19:28, Jiri Kuthan wrote:
Thank you Olle,
I think your positive note is very encouraging.
I'm similarly concerned about the actual outcome -- planning and striving for it is one thing, executing it yet another thing on our busy to-do-lists.
developing the features we will get to by this integration would have been taken lot more time than doing in this way. Also, later would have meant more time lost with integration. So yes, it will be work to do, but everybody will benefit from it.
Nevertheless the willingness to work hard on it is very tangible and I really consider it realistic. And I'm willing to bet on its success too :)
I do, too. The positive feedback we got from developers (before going to public, so no conspiracy :-) ) and from our users shows we are on the right direction.
In my opinion, (for me) coding is the easiest in open source. You get your pizza, vim, gcc and gdb (folks, don't get it literary!!!) ... but that is not enough. If we got here, then it is because everyone wants to do things better and are committed to.
Cheers, Daniel
I would very much discount conspiracy, absorption and other discouraging and ungrounded concerns. In fact, if there is something which appears hard to follow, why Bogdan forked off SER with many strong arguments to openser, and now forked off from his openser to opensips with arguments remarkably similar to the former.
"Serial forking" is not the kind of business I'm interested here at all. In fact, I think forking is a VERY BAD THING to do and I'm very strongly opposed to attempts discouraging unforking and encouraging other forks. More funded opinions than mine can be for example found here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fork_%28software_development%29
Therefore thanks again to anyone putting effort on unforking!
-jiri
Johansson Olle E wrote:
4 nov 2008 kl. 16.24 skrev Bogdan-Andrei Iancu:
Hi Olle,
Thank you for your thoughts. On a first view, it looks interesting, but I'm missing some points here (important points):
- as OpenSER was forked from SER because different views (and the
OpenSER view proved to be a very popular and successful one), I wonder why, Kamilio is getting back to SER? not sharing any more the OpenSER view as claimed? because such merging will definitely have a great impact on the dynamical and openness of the projects (like releases, contributions, driving the project)
- this major change of perspective (at least for kamilio) was a
backstage decision, kept secret from the community - shouldn't be in the interest of the community to say if going back to the roots (merging into SER) is something wanted or not? it somehow contradicts the self existence of OpenSER, right?
- the benefits you mentions are mainly optimization of the internal
project activities and not optimizations of the outcome - what the project will deliver. And I guess this is the most important. We already went though the experience of large devel community, frameworks, etc but with no outcome for more than 2 years...
From my personal perspective, the new project looks more like SER absorbing Kamilio (considering the sizes, the companies behind each
project, the resources, and the man-power behind each project).
And at the moment I would like preserve the OpenSER vision and to have an open source project (a standalone one), far away from the "control" of any Big Brother ;)
Bogdan, Thanks for your feedback, which clearly indicates where you stand today. We will have to see what the community says, but so far, I've only seen cheers and applauds.
How this will work out in the future is something no one really can guess at this point. The more people that joins this effort and forms it, the better. The time to make it right is now, by working together and aligning the codebases as described, then working towards the future with new releases.
We'll see if the combined forces can produce any deliverys or not. Today, we can only hope and guess.
I think it's a great starting point that they have started talking, and agreed to work together on some parts. To me, it seems to be room for two final products stil, sharing the same core. One Kamailio and one SER.
After the developer meetings, I think it's time to call for a joint community meeting to have people active in the community - not only developers - in the same room, discussing benefits of working together.
I don't want to argue your standpoint, just hope that you will follow the progress and see if there's some benefits for OpenSIPS to join at some stage. Regardless, the GPL license allows you to benefit from the work as always.
I might be naive, but I do have a positive feeling about this :-)
/O
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Hi Jiri,
Have you ever consider a fork as an option driven by technical needs?? Like to do something totally different than you have and than the other people want to do.
After 7 year of SER/OpenSER I (and many other) got to simplest conclusion that the current design is not able to sustain the progress of SER / OpenSER (like scripting, async calls, integration, scaling, etc) ? Mainly because SER was design 7 years ago when there was only stateless processing, no TCP, etc....
And I personally do not see any future in keep trying to patch the existing design as it has no future. If SER and kamilio want to go on this path, fine with me, not my problem, happy for your joined effort.
But not point in black the idea of somebody forking into a different direction than yours - nature invented forking for seeking new alternatives!
I like the go for new alternatives instead of blocking into a dead-end.
Regards, Bogdan
Jiri Kuthan wrote:
"Serial forking" is not the kind of business I'm interested here at all. In fact, I think forking is a VERY BAD THING to do and I'm very strongly opposed to attempts discouraging unforking and encouraging other forks. More funded opinions than mine can be for example found here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fork_%28software_development%29
Therefore thanks again to anyone putting effort on unforking!
Jiri Kuthan wrote:
I would very much discount conspiracy, absorption and other discouraging and ungrounded concerns.
Considering you came with the same merging proposal to me (to merge opensips into ser), I can say I have a better understanding of what is going on. Also, considering the huge unbalance between SER and Kamailio (like resources, man power, skills), the SER's inflexibility when comes to external driven changes (as part of Tekelec internal agenda) and the major differences between the core+TM code from the two projects (process management, external interfaces, scripting language, etc) I made a feet-on-the-ground analysis of what will possible result from this merging and expressed my concerns - these concerns are for the technical side (like befits to the end-user), as on the political side, it is 100% clear the win-win situation. If they are true or not, you can argue or let the future decide.
In fact, if there is something which appears hard to follow, why Bogdan forked off SER with many strong arguments to openser, and now forked off from his openser to opensips with arguments remarkably similar to the former.
Not so hard to follow, but almost predictable as my goals never changed. I moved out of SER when it didn;t provide the proper environment for project development and carried on with OpenSER which was a huge success. Again, when OpenSER stopped being a project to evolve, I carried on with OpenSIPS following the same goals.
You may crucify or demonize me for this, but for me it is important to be able to deliver the software I'm working on.
"Serial forking" is not the kind of business I'm interested here at all. In fact, I think forking is a VERY BAD THING to do and I'm very strongly opposed to attempts discouraging unforking and encouraging other forks. More funded opinions than mine can be for example found here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fork_%28software_development%29
Of course you strongly opposed to any other alternative/competition to SER....it is not so difficult to guess to be honest.
Bogdan
In Hoc Signo Vinces!
C.
Daniel-Constantin Mierla ha scritto:
Hello Everybody,
We are pleased to announce to you the SIP Router project.
It aims to build a solid open source SIP routing platform, based on collaboration of the SIP Express Router (SER) and Kamailio (OpenSER) teams.
Developers of these two projects believe that an united and non-conflicting environment will bring many benefits to them, community members and companies:
* bring together the developers and user communities of both projects * reduce maintenance overhead * avoid duplicated efforts in development * develop a core framework that is flexible, extensible and scalable * promote and build a solid open source SIP server project * ensure business credibility * make future forking undesirable, this harms everybody, affectscredibility and business
You are welcome to join! Visit the web site at:
There is a meeting in Karlsruhe, Germany, on Nov 10, 2008, hosted by 1&1, where the developers and community members have the chance to discuss and tune the last aspects of the new project. We are looking to see many of you there: http://sip-router.org/index.php/meeting/
We hope this is a great news for you, thanks to the effort of main developers and management teams of the two projects. We invite you to join the new mailing list for further discussions:
http://lists.sip-router.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sr-dev
Daniel, Jiri Kamailio Management Team SER Management Team
Users mailing list Users@lists.kamailio.org http://lists.kamailio.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/users
Congratulations to everyone who participated in the reunion ;)
Good movement guys! Samuel
2008/11/4 Daniel-Constantin Mierla miconda@gmail.com
Hello Everybody,
We are pleased to announce to you the SIP Router project.
It aims to build a solid open source SIP routing platform, based on collaboration of the SIP Express Router (SER) and Kamailio (OpenSER) teams.
Developers of these two projects believe that an united and non-conflicting environment will bring many benefits to them, community members and companies:
- bring together the developers and user communities of both projects
- reduce maintenance overhead
- avoid duplicated efforts in development
- develop a core framework that is flexible, extensible and scalable
- promote and build a solid open source SIP server project
- ensure business credibility
- make future forking undesirable, this harms everybody, affects
credibility and business
You are welcome to join! Visit the web site at:
There is a meeting in Karlsruhe, Germany, on Nov 10, 2008, hosted by 1&1, where the developers and community members have the chance to discuss and tune the last aspects of the new project. We are looking to see many of you there: http://sip-router.org/index.php/meeting/
We hope this is a great news for you, thanks to the effort of main developers and management teams of the two projects. We invite you to join the new mailing list for further discussions:
http://lists.sip-router.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sr-dev
Daniel, Jiri Kamailio Management Team SER Management Team
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Daniel-Constantin Mierla miconda@gmail.com wrote:
We hope this is a great news for you, thanks to the effort of main developers and management teams of the two projects. We invite you to
Whoa, this indeed is great news. Many thanks and congratulations to everyone involved. It sounds like a lot of work but what's important is that there's a solid plan afoot.
Anyone know of a similar story of two free software projects coming back together after a long time _significant_ fork? I don't. :-)
Hello All!
2008/11/4, Sajith T S sajith@gmail.com:
Anyone know of a similar story of two free software projects coming back together after a long time _significant_ fork? I don't. :-)
Sutuation with compiz and beryl sounds very similar. However they weren't divided so long.
Hello All!
2008/11/4, Daniel-Constantin Mierla miconda@gmail.com:
There is a meeting in Karlsruhe, Germany, on Nov 10, 2008, hosted by 1&1, where the developers and community members have the chance to discuss and tune the last aspects of the new project. We are looking to see many of you there: http://sip-router.org/index.php/meeting/
Please make announces about such events earlier.
It takes about 7 working days to make a EU visa in Russia, and if some russian fellow (not me, in particular) interested in visiting this meeting, he definitely would like to know exact dates in two weeks before the event.
We hope this is a great news for you
Great news, indeed!
Hello,
On 11/04/08 17:05, Peter Lemenkov wrote:
Hello All!
2008/11/4, Daniel-Constantin Mierla miconda@gmail.com:
There is a meeting in Karlsruhe, Germany, on Nov 10, 2008, hosted by 1&1, where the developers and community members have the chance to discuss and tune the last aspects of the new project. We are looking to see many of you there: http://sip-router.org/index.php/meeting/
Please make announces about such events earlier.
I apologize for this short term, indeed. It was practically impossible to find a better day, due to travelings and IETF in the middle. It is why we tried to announced as soon as possible once the date was clear. Sometimes we just have to do it to happen, also not all devels can make it, even they are EU.
There will be further meetings, this is the kick start, I am looking forward for the first release including all features from both projects, a solid and performant core -- that could be a good party meeting...
Cheers, Daniel
It takes about 7 working days to make a EU visa in Russia, and if some russian fellow (not me, in particular) interested in visiting this meeting, he definitely would like to know exact dates in two weeks before the event.
We hope this is a great news for you
Great news, indeed!
Peter Lemenkov wrote:
Hello All!
2008/11/4, Daniel-Constantin Mierla miconda@gmail.com:
There is a meeting in Karlsruhe, Germany, on Nov 10, 2008, hosted by 1&1, where the developers and community members have the chance to discuss and tune the last aspects of the new project. We are looking to see many of you there: http://sip-router.org/index.php/meeting/
Please make announces about such events earlier.
I take my part of the blame as well -- it is a desire to progress in combination with (un)availability of many folks who have been preparing this. We are intending to follow the IETF model in that meetings are good for speeding up, but whatever comes out of it will be shared with the mailing list.
It takes about 7 working days to make a EU visa in Russia, and if some russian fellow (not me, in particular) interested in visiting this meeting, he definitely would like to know exact dates in two weeks before the event.
We hope this is a great news for you
Great news, indeed!
Thank you, we got lot of private feedback too and it has been encouragingly positive.
-jiri
Hi Guys!
This is great news! I think I'm not the onlyone who's been hopeing for a merge since the day the split became public.
- Atle
Who's rather suppriced today, since he has'nt checked his email in 5 days..
* Jiri Kuthan jiri@iptel.org [081104 16:25]:
Peter Lemenkov wrote:
Hello All!
2008/11/4, Daniel-Constantin Mierla miconda@gmail.com:
There is a meeting in Karlsruhe, Germany, on Nov 10, 2008, hosted by 1&1, where the developers and community members have the chance to discuss and tune the last aspects of the new project. We are looking to see many of you there: http://sip-router.org/index.php/meeting/
Please make announces about such events earlier.
I take my part of the blame as well -- it is a desire to progress in combination with (un)availability of many folks who have been preparing this. We are intending to follow the IETF model in that meetings are good for speeding up, but whatever comes out of it will be shared with the mailing list.
It takes about 7 working days to make a EU visa in Russia, and if some russian fellow (not me, in particular) interested in visiting this meeting, he definitely would like to know exact dates in two weeks before the event.
We hope this is a great news for you
Great news, indeed!
Thank you, we got lot of private feedback too and it has been encouragingly positive.
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