Hi, I downloaded the Presence (PA) snapshot 4.1 and after hours trying to make it work with my OLD SER0.9.6 ser.cfg file, I realized the following: 1) The PA snapshot works with the example ser.cfg provided in the distribution 2) The PA snapshot is "different" from 0.9.6 in terms of DB schema, API's, etc. e.g. there is no "alias" table, subscriber has been renamed to "customer", etc.
My questions: 1) Is the PA snapshot meant to run on a separate server handling only SUBSCRIBE, PUBLISH and MESSAGE which are to forwarded by the main SER PROXY?
2) Can I use my ser 0.9.6 proxy and forward all SUB, MESSAGE and PUBLISH to a different server running the PA snapshot?
If yes, Do the two servers (SER 0.9.6 and PA 4.1) need to share the SER database or each will run it's own DB schema?
3) It seems that I cannot run my ser.cfg SER PROXY script on the PA 4.1 snapshot due to database and api issues. Does this mean that I need to modify my ser.cfg that does proxying to fit with the PA 4.1 api/database in order to use presence?
Any pointers and help will be appreciated. Regards, Dave
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Hi, reply inline...
Hi, I downloaded the Presence (PA) snapshot 4.1 and after hours trying to make it work with my OLD SER0.9.6 ser.cfg file, I realized the following:
- The PA snapshot works with the example ser.cfg
provided in the distribution 2) The PA snapshot is "different" from 0.9.6 in terms of DB schema, API's, etc. e.g. there is no "alias" table, subscriber has been renamed to "customer", etc.
Right, like the CVS version of SER. (But presence snapshot is older than CVS version and thus may differ from it.)
My questions:
- Is the PA snapshot meant to run on a separate
server handling only SUBSCRIBE, PUBLISH and MESSAGE which are to forwarded by the main SER PROXY?
Might be, but it is not a necessity. It is recommended because: a) presence needs lots of shared memory b) presence modules are not as stable as other SER parts, thus if presence server dies, the "voice"/proxy can still work
But you can write the same proxy-config for presence snapshot as for SER's CVS version (you can't use config for older SER versions like 0.9.6).
- Can I use my ser 0.9.6 proxy and forward all SUB,
MESSAGE and PUBLISH to a different server running the PA snapshot?
If yes, Do the two servers (SER 0.9.6 and PA 4.1) need to share the SER database or each will run it's own DB schema?
If you run SER 0.9.6 and if it has other database than schema presence server, don't use the same database for them. But you need to have there the same users, domains etc. (You can leave authentication/authorization on the proxy and in this case you need not share user database and you can use configuration "without DB" on presence server - but this depends on your needs.)
- It seems that I cannot run my ser.cfg SER PROXY
script on the PA 4.1 snapshot due to database and api issues. Does this mean that I need to modify my ser.cfg that does proxying to fit with the PA 4.1 api/database in order to use presence?
You can't use old SER config for new SER versions (like presence snapshot or CVS version) - there were lots of changes.
You can modify your proxy config to satisfy PA 4.1 needs and then you can use it with presence together.
Vaclav
Thank you. This explains a lot. I'll start implementing presence. BTW, is there any doc that explains difference between 0.9.6 and the CVS SER?
Dave --- Vaclav Kubart vaclav.kubart@iptel.org wrote:
Hi, reply inline...
Hi, I downloaded the Presence (PA) snapshot 4.1
and
after hours trying to make it work with my OLD SER0.9.6 ser.cfg file, I realized the following:
- The PA snapshot works with the example ser.cfg
provided in the distribution 2) The PA snapshot is "different" from 0.9.6 in
terms
of DB schema, API's, etc. e.g. there is no "alias" table, subscriber has been renamed to "customer",
etc.
Right, like the CVS version of SER. (But presence snapshot is older than CVS version and thus may differ from it.)
My questions:
- Is the PA snapshot meant to run on a separate
server handling only SUBSCRIBE, PUBLISH and
MESSAGE
which are to forwarded by the main SER PROXY?
Might be, but it is not a necessity. It is recommended because: a) presence needs lots of shared memory b) presence modules are not as stable as other SER parts, thus if presence server dies, the "voice"/proxy can still work
But you can write the same proxy-config for presence snapshot as for SER's CVS version (you can't use config for older SER versions like 0.9.6).
- Can I use my ser 0.9.6 proxy and forward all
SUB,
MESSAGE and PUBLISH to a different server running
the
PA snapshot?
If yes, Do the two servers (SER 0.9.6 and PA 4.1)
need
to share the SER database or each will run it's
own DB
schema?
If you run SER 0.9.6 and if it has other database than schema presence server, don't use the same database for them. But you need to have there the same users, domains etc. (You can leave authentication/authorization on the proxy and in this case you need not share user database and you can use configuration "without DB" on presence server - but this depends on your needs.)
- It seems that I cannot run my ser.cfg SER
PROXY
script on the PA 4.1 snapshot due to database and
api
issues. Does this mean that I need to modify my ser.cfg that does proxying to fit with the PA 4.1 api/database in order to use presence?
You can't use old SER config for new SER versions (like presence snapshot or CVS version) - there were lots of changes.
You can modify your proxy config to satisfy PA 4.1 needs and then you can use it with presence together.
Vaclav
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You are welcome.
I'm afraid that there is no documentation about changes (and not much actualized documentation about anything else).
Vaclav
On Mon, May 22, 2006 at 06:06:49AM -0700, Dave wrote:
Thank you. This explains a lot. I'll start implementing presence. BTW, is there any doc that explains difference between 0.9.6 and the CVS SER?
Dave --- Vaclav Kubart vaclav.kubart@iptel.org wrote:
Hi, reply inline...
Hi, I downloaded the Presence (PA) snapshot 4.1
and
after hours trying to make it work with my OLD SER0.9.6 ser.cfg file, I realized the following:
- The PA snapshot works with the example ser.cfg
provided in the distribution 2) The PA snapshot is "different" from 0.9.6 in
terms
of DB schema, API's, etc. e.g. there is no "alias" table, subscriber has been renamed to "customer",
etc.
Right, like the CVS version of SER. (But presence snapshot is older than CVS version and thus may differ from it.)
My questions:
- Is the PA snapshot meant to run on a separate
server handling only SUBSCRIBE, PUBLISH and
MESSAGE
which are to forwarded by the main SER PROXY?
Might be, but it is not a necessity. It is recommended because: a) presence needs lots of shared memory b) presence modules are not as stable as other SER parts, thus if presence server dies, the "voice"/proxy can still work
But you can write the same proxy-config for presence snapshot as for SER's CVS version (you can't use config for older SER versions like 0.9.6).
- Can I use my ser 0.9.6 proxy and forward all
SUB,
MESSAGE and PUBLISH to a different server running
the
PA snapshot?
If yes, Do the two servers (SER 0.9.6 and PA 4.1)
need
to share the SER database or each will run it's
own DB
schema?
If you run SER 0.9.6 and if it has other database than schema presence server, don't use the same database for them. But you need to have there the same users, domains etc. (You can leave authentication/authorization on the proxy and in this case you need not share user database and you can use configuration "without DB" on presence server - but this depends on your needs.)
- It seems that I cannot run my ser.cfg SER
PROXY
script on the PA 4.1 snapshot due to database and
api
issues. Does this mean that I need to modify my ser.cfg that does proxying to fit with the PA 4.1 api/database in order to use presence?
You can't use old SER config for new SER versions (like presence snapshot or CVS version) - there were lots of changes.
You can modify your proxy config to satisfy PA 4.1 needs and then you can use it with presence together.
Vaclav
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