On 09.10.2009 11:42 Uhr, Iñaki Baz Castillo wrote:
2009/10/9 Olle E. Johansson oej@edvina.net:
What does "without SIMPLE" mean?
A phone without SIMPLE. Just SIP for calls, and XMPP for IM and presence. In short: A failure for everyone that believes in SIMPLE.
Nobody wants to give an opportunity to SIMPLE/XCAP? I'm sure that Kamailio is faster and more efficient than any existing XMPP server to route messages. Let's keep it!
SIMPLE presence specs are more laborious, allowing more complex services. There is a future for it, as it is for SIP. If xmpp/jingle targets telephony, it will end in the same complex environment as SIP.
There are couple of mistakes in SIP specs, could have been more strict in requirements, but what makes it very complex is the large set of functionalities it wants to solve. Making call between two users is easy, changing presence between 2 users is easy as well (end-to-end).
Cheers, Daniel
I will no accept such kind of "hack" (a multiprotocol client). SIMPLE is capable of offering similar services as XMPP does. Just implementations are needed. And this will never achieved if we insist on using XMPP "because SIMPLE is not mature yet".
Keep on fighting!
Yeah :)
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