Re: [SR-Users] Astricon: OpenSource Soiree

Hello, there are couple of aspects to clarify with your kind of approach here. * First, because you did it couple of times, email good manners say not to send a message to many recipients that have no close relation between them. You addressed many of your past emails to couple of mailing lists: - if you think the members overlap, then send to only one, everyone will get it from there - if you don't think the above and the communities are different, send independent messages to each of your recipients or put them on bcc. After all, copy&paste is cheap, takes few more seconds, but is done properly. We encourage Reply-All in your community, when someone sends an email with recipient in no relation with themselves and our project, even worse with subscribe-only mailing lists, it doesn't play nice * Users mailing list here is for discussions about using Kamailio. If you do a presentation or something else that doesn't involve directly Kamailio, even if you think some aspects there can be interesting, this is not the forum for it. Use business list or contact first the Kamailio project admin or management groups to figure out where is the most appropriate place to post your message. It was suggested by others for your past posts, I wanted to highlight it again. * Personal opinion here, but your event seems organized somehow around the facilities/efforts put together by Astricon/Asterisk team to get people in Orlando. It is announced as a public event, on several open source projects, like Kamailio or FreeSwitch, but Asterisk is left out (or at least I couldn't see any announcement on Asterisk Users/Business lists). If you invited all of us here, thousands people in Kamailio Users list, maybe this could have been done as something more official with the organizers of the main event. It's usual that various groups organize themselves in sort of private meetings/gatherings/parties at world wide events, discussing among them, but doing it in this mode looks more like a cheap way of advertising. The sponsors of your event promote themselves as "known sponsors and contributors to the OpenSouce Telecom Community". If Asterisk doesn't qualify for open source telecom, then likely no one else qualifies. Or maybe the meaning of "OpenSouce Telecom Community" is like: hey, I use an open source telephony project, so I am also part of the "OpenSouce Telecom Community", so I am going to "sponsor" myself some drinks, thus now I am now "sponsor and contributor to the OpenSouce Telecom Community". Also, the sponsors have very little or nothing to do with Kamailio project. Moreover, various people involved there, among the sponsors and the others, had aggressive campaigns against Kamailio project and its developers in the past. After saying left and right that Kamailio has incapable developers and it is going to die as a project, but 10 years late they find our project and community interesting ... huh. * I see a photo that includes me on the web page of your event. It would have been polite to at least ask if I am fine with, not to say that it is illegal to do it with the privacy laws in European Union. Maybe I agreed that pictures that capture me at some past events (in this case Astricon 2017) can be used by the organizers of the event, but for sure I didn't agree to be used by others for promoting of events not related to me, Kamailio or the original event. And if you think of asking now: I am not. It happens also that I attended all Kamailio World editions, so the statement in your event web page that "You've seen us at ... Kamailio World" is unclear. Who is "us"? I see in the page faces that were never at KW as well as sponsors that had nothing to do with the event or with Kamailio project. To conclude: maybe the event is well intended, I expect it is, but beside giving an email address and posting a day+time, no other info about the persons that are the main organizers, the location, the capacity and acceptance rules, ... it is just trying to highlight some sponsors and various persons, so instead of (hoping) its well intended scope, it looks like advertising purposes by a bunch of opportunistic companies and people. Cheers, Daniel On 04.10.18 16:54, Giovanni Maruzzelli wrote: Hello friends and collegues, A nice get together has been organized for evening Wednesday 10th at 7pm The idea is to have drinks and chitchat about opensource telephony and webrtc, and all opensource project founders, members, and practitioners are invited. Please join me, as distinguished participants too! Check it out at http://party.officering.com (no animals has been harmed in this mail) -giovanni -- Sincerely, Giovanni Maruzzelli OpenTelecom.IT cell: +39 347 266 56 18 _______________________________________________ Kamailio (SER) - Users Mailing Listsr-users@lists.kamailio.orghttps://lists.kamailio.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sr-users -- Daniel-Constantin Mierla -- www.asipto.comwww.twitter.com/miconda -- www.linkedin.com/in/miconda Kamailio World Conference -- www.kamailioworld.com Kamailio Advanced Training, Nov 12-14, 2018, in Berlin -- www.asipto.com