Isn't the ATA able of "double registration" (see
draft-ietf-sipping-nat-scenarios-00.txt) ?
I thought it was able to register, look at received and rport and re-register
then again with the host/port it learned from reply to the first registration.
Or does it do so only for IP address (received) and not for port numbers (rport)?
-Jiri
At 03:15 PM 1/10/2003, Maxim Sobolev wrote:
Yes, I know - we have studied all those methods in
details. Our
method of choice is symmetric signalling/symmetric media (aka COMEDIA)
due to the following reasons:
1. Things should work without modifying or reconfiguring existing
user's infrastructure (NATs) and should be compatible with all
widely-used NATs.
2. We are bound to ata186 as UA. It is compatible with this method.
Support for other UAs isn't required.
3. The calls will be terminated to Cisco GWs, while COMEDIA support
was recently added into Cisco IOS, so that theoretically the only
thing we need is to add received/rport support into proxy/registrar
and update IOS at termination points.
4. No media relay is allowed, because this will create excessive
bandwith load in a single point.
5. COMEDIA support is likely to become part of the standard, so that
our investments into development are protected.
-Maxim
On Fri, Jan 10, 2003 at 02:26:07PM +0100, Jiri Kuthan wrote:
> There is actually a plenty of options how to traverse NATs.
> Sadly, none of them works in all possible scenarios.
>
> a) STUN -- some phones (kphone for linux, snom hardphones)
> have the ability to "fool" NATs to accomplish traversal
> using the STUN protocols; particularly good if you cannot
> manipulate the NAT
> b) geek tweaks -- you have a configurable NAT and configurable
> phones (there are some of both of them). you configure static
> port forwarding in the NAT and phones to advertise the
> public address in contacts and elsewhere
> c) ALG -- use a SIP-aware NAT such as PIX or Intertex
> d) UPnP -- takes UPnP enables phones (snom is) and NATs
> e) SIP/media relay -- that's a too ugly story
>
> What to choose best depends on your network setting -- can you
> tweak the NAT, can you afford replacing it with a SIP-enabled
> one, are the phones you are using configurable or do they use
> STUN, do you have a server on the public or private NAT side
> or on each of them, etc.
>
> I remember someone shared with us he was using ser in his
> network to do the translation of SIP addresses on behalf
> ot the phones. The ser script was configured to statically
> rewrite private IP addresses to the public address using
> replace/textops.
>
> -Jiri
>
> At 01:32 PM 1/10/2003, Maxim Sobolev wrote:
> >Folks,
> >
> >I need an advise on how to better implement one feature, which isn't
> >currently present in SER. We need to allow UAs behind NAT properly
> >register with the registrar - by "properly" I mean that host:port
portion
> >of URI in Contact field should not be used, but host:port the request
> >came from should be used instead. By definition we know that those UAs
> >will support symmetric SIP signalling, so that this scheme will work just
> >fine.
> >
> >In my opinion there are two ways to do it: either add new rewritecontact*
> >family of functions similar to rewritehost ones. or add a new flag for
> >the save() function. This is where I need your help - which implementation
> >looks better for you (or maybe you have even some better idea), since
> >we are really interested in inclusion of our changes into the mainline to
> >reduce our local hacks.
> >
> >Regards,
> >
> >Maxim
> >
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> Jiri Kuthan
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