[SR-Users] RTPENGINE not kernalizing in some cases

Hi I have the Kamailio and FS behind it (in Kazoo). Both are in one ip address 10.34.101.104 i use rtpengine_manage(). When I call from Asterisk which is behind NAT :1) Asterisk in VMware player  (NAT, local ip 192.168.175.136) and public 10.34.101.103 - the voice was ok? in logs I saw Kernalizing media 2)Asterisk in KVM(NAT, local 10.28.40.101 public 10.101.29.45) and no Kernalizing in /var/log/messages and no voice. The Asterisk configs are absolutely the same.  Kamailio log shows no errors In both cases the INVITE's SDP connection is 10.34.101.104 - the address of the Kamailioin the ' case 1'  I see all RTP streams : 2 rtp streams - between asterisk and kamailio and vice versa, 2 -rtp streams between kamailio/rtpengine - Freeswitch and vice versa in the second case I see the following RTP streams: 1 rtp stream - from Kamailio to Asterisk, 1 rtp stream - from Freeswitch to Kamailio How to debug such cases? Any help is appreciated.