Re: [Kamailio-Users] [OT] BYE sip:SIMPLE&XCAP@ietf.org SIP/1.0

Hi Inaki,

On 03/05/2010 05:09 PM, Iñaki Baz Castillo wrote:

Hi, if somebody is bored and has 5-10 minutes of spare time I suggest to read the mail I've sent to sip-implementors maillist, full of hate and fury:

https://lists.cs.columbia.edu/pipermail/sip-implementors/2010- March/024529.html

sad, but true! Your conclusions are right.

I think we have to find ourselves a way in SIP to go the xmpp approach, which means: first implement then specify. IM & Presence are basic services in IP communication, they simply must work.

I would impose a rule in IETF that each rfc must have one prototype/reference implementation before approval. Otherwise they will keep pushing generic and complex service architectures.

Cheers, Daniel