On 29/04/14 09:51, Daniel Tryba wrote:
On Tuesday 29 April 2014 09:18:41 Daniel-Constantin Mierla wrote:
Is anyone here aware of similar issues and potential fixes? I guess yahoo/hotmail servers simply reject the emails sent by mailman of mailing lists.
Any hint would be appreciated...
It's DMARC at work:
http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ietf/current/msg87153.html
The subejct says it all: "Yahoo breaks every mailing list in the world including the IETF's"
Thanks, the possible solutions found so far:
1) upgrade mailman to 2.1.16 which has an option to replace From header with the address of the mailing list. The really big inconvenient is that all emails will be handled like this, losing the sender information, no matter is from yahoo/hotmail or not. Another inconvenient is that it might require manual installation, since 2.1.16 is not packaged on old debian stable, adding overhead in maintenance ... unless some good sysadmin around here provides some backports
2) ask those people with yahoo/hotmail/... to use different email provider
Combined, yahoo+hotmail account for a bit more than 200 addresses on sr-users.
What people here prefer? Any other solution?
Cheers, Daniel
On Tuesday 29 April 2014, Daniel-Constantin Mierla wrote:
- upgrade mailman to 2.1.16 which has an option to replace From header
with the address of the mailing list.
Please don't. Mailing list mangling the reply-to header are already worse enough, mangling the From makes it unbearable.
- ask those people with yahoo/hotmail/... to use different email provider
Combined, yahoo+hotmail account for a bit more than 200 addresses on sr-users.
But with about 8 posts in the last 4 years, half of them spam.
What people here prefer? Any other solution?
Just automatically remove addresses that bounce a few times, it is commonly done on many mailinglists. Recipients are themselves reponsible for a properly operating mailserver.
On 29/04/14 14:01, Alex Hermann wrote:
On Tuesday 29 April 2014, Daniel-Constantin Mierla wrote:
- upgrade mailman to 2.1.16 which has an option to replace From header
with the address of the mailing list.
Please don't. Mailing list mangling the reply-to header are already worse enough, mangling the From makes it unbearable.
- ask those people with yahoo/hotmail/... to use different email provider
Combined, yahoo+hotmail account for a bit more than 200 addresses on sr-users.
But with about 8 posts in the last 4 years, half of them spam.
On sr-users, from where I got the figures of subscribers, there are many with yahoo/hotmail, some even these days (e.g., Arun)...
What people here prefer? Any other solution?
Just automatically remove addresses that bounce a few times, it is commonly done on many mailinglists. Recipients are themselves reponsible for a properly operating mailserver.
Hopefully there will be a solution soon not to be very drastic in cutting these public/free mail services.
Cheers, Daniel
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Daniel-Constantin Mierla