9 Dec
2014
9 Dec
'14
3:04 p.m.
Hi!
There are users on IRC that like to contribute to our documentation with how-to guides. I
can set up a structure for that on the wiki,
but wants to stay assured that information copied on the wiki freely can be copied to
module READMEs if they add value.
Do we have a clear understanding under what terms wiki contributions to the project are
done?
Is it possible to copy text from the wiki to the source code docs, like INSTALL and module
docs without breaking any license?
Cheers,
/O
9 Dec
9 Dec
3:32 p.m.
On 12/09/2014 09:04 PM, Olle E. Johansson wrote:
Hi!
There are users on IRC that like to contribute to our documentation with how-to guides. I
can set up a structure for that on the wiki,
but wants to stay assured that information copied on the wiki freely can be copied to
module READMEs if they add value.
Do we have a clear understanding under what terms wiki contributions to the project are
done?
No. I don't see any disclaimer about license on the wiki.
Is it possible to copy text from the wiki to the
source code docs, like INSTALL and module docs without breaking any license?
But, If someone wants to contribute on the documentation area and It is
related to module docs, github pull request can be used easily.
Why don't encourage users to collaborate into kamailio/doc/ with those
how-to?
Cheers,
Victor
3:42 p.m.
On 09 Dec 2014, at 21:32, Victor Seva <linuxmaniac(a)torreviejawireless.org> wrote:
Wiki is a natural editing point that you can use without knowing git our source code.
But we need to avoid any license/copyright issues. It would be bad if we had information
on the wiki that we
could not copy to the source code.
/O
On 12/09/2014 09:04 PM, Olle E. Johansson wrote:
Maybe we need to look
into that.
Hi!
There are users on IRC that like to contribute to our documentation with how-to guides. I
can set up a structure for that on the wiki,
but wants to stay assured that information copied on the wiki freely can be copied to
module READMEs if they add value.
Do we have a clear understanding under what terms wiki contributions to the project are
done?
No. I don't see any disclaimer about license on the wiki. Is it possible to copy text from the wiki to the
source code docs, like INSTALL and module docs without breaking any license?
But, If someone wants to contribute on the documentation area and It is
related to module docs, github pull request can be used easily.
Why don't encourage users to collaborate into kamailio/doc/ with those
how-to? 
3:57 p.m.
It's an interesting question since I (after a very quick and
non-thorough search) didn't see anything regarding the ownership of
material on the wiki.
That being said, at least in the US, the contribution to a wiki is
generally considered a "copyleft" writing... basically posting a free
license and requiring that it can be edited, with the edits also being
of a free license.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyleft
I believe that this should apply to us as well, since any one posting on
the wiki can have that content modified by anyone else.
The nature of the wiki is a collaborative, living document. I think the
only issue that may befall us is if people have posted someone else's
content onto the wiki.
That being said, we should probably post something onto the site and/or
wiki choosing between either a GNU style license or a Creative Commons one.
I for one would like as few licenses as possible so if we just cover the
wiki in the Kamailio main license, that would be great...
such as:
"Kamailio is released under GNU Public License v2 (GPLv2). The content
of the website, wiki, and documentation are included within this license."
Fred Posner
The Palner Group, Inc.
http://www.palner.com (web)
+1-503-914-0999 (direct)
On 12/09/2014 03:42 PM, Olle E. Johansson wrote:
On 09 Dec 2014, at 21:32, Victor Seva <linuxmaniac(a)torreviejawireless.org> wrote:
Wiki is a natural editing point that you can use without knowing git our source code.
But we need to avoid any license/copyright issues. It would be bad if we had information
on the wiki that we
could not copy to the source code.
/O
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On 12/09/2014 09:04 PM, Olle E. Johansson wrote:
Maybe we need to
look into that.
Hi!
There are users on IRC that like to contribute to our documentation with how-to guides. I
can set up a structure for that on the wiki,
but wants to stay assured that information copied on the wiki freely can be copied to
module READMEs if they add value.
Do we have a clear understanding under what terms wiki contributions to the project are
done?
No. I don't see any disclaimer about license on the wiki. Is it possible to copy text from the wiki to the
source code docs, like INSTALL and module docs without breaking any license?
But, If someone wants to contribute on the documentation area and It is
related to module docs, github pull request can be used easily.
Why don't encourage users to collaborate into kamailio/doc/ with those
how-to? 
4:51 p.m.
On 09/12/14 21:57, Fred Posner wrote:
It's an interesting question since I (after a very
quick and
non-thorough search) didn't see anything regarding the ownership of
material on the wiki.
That being said, at least in the US, the contribution to a wiki is
generally considered a "copyleft" writing... basically posting a free
license and requiring that it can be edited, with the edits also being
of a free license.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyleft
I believe that this should apply to us as well, since any one posting
on the wiki can have that content modified by anyone else.
The nature of the wiki is a collaborative, living document. I think
the only issue that may befall us is if people have posted someone
else's content onto the wiki.
That being said, we should probably post something onto the site
and/or wiki choosing between either a GNU style license or a Creative
Commons one.
I for one would like as few licenses as possible so if we just cover
the wiki in the Kamailio main license, that would be great...
such as:
"Kamailio is released under GNU Public License v2 (GPLv2). The content
of the website, wiki, and documentation are included within this
license."
Not sure it should be extended to the documentation in the code,
that is
typically part of a module that has a license with it (some are bsd there).
Anyhow, what so ever form, it can be added to the disclaimer section in
the first page:
- http://www.kamailio.org/wiki/start#disclaimer
I am fine with any free to use license. I think that if we do it, it has
to explicitly say:
"Any contribution to the wiki must be done under these terms."
There is a remark about 'illegal' content must be reported (and we will
remove it if proved legit) -- I guess that applies if someone is copying
from other sources with different license and we are notified about that.
Cheers,
Daniel
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http://twitter.com/#!/miconda - http://www.linkedin.com/in/miconda
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