19 Mar
2015
19 Mar
'15
9:13 a.m.
Hi,
I would like to propose [and manage] an effort with the primary Kamailio
developers to simplify the configuration syntax. I'm not a developer,
but used lot's of different applications and I'm familiar with various
configuration formats.
Based on what I've seen, there are five (5) types of configuration
directives used with Kamailio.
- C-Style Control Directives
- Apache-Like Name/Value Pairs
- Normal Name/Value Pairs
- Modify Parameter Procedures
- Routing Logic Scripting
I do understand some of this may be the result of merging multiple
projects. But this mixture of syntax slows adoption, drastically
increases the learning curve for the user base. By implementing a
consistent standard to the configuration syntax, it will make using the
application less complicated.
--
My first recommendation, would be to separate the routing logic from the
primary configuration file. This can easily be done with
import/include. However, I feel that a fixed path should be added
during compile.
‘--with-routing=/etc/kamailio/routing/’
Then it would possible to modify the configuration parser to read all
the files in that directory. Allowing the separation of the route logic
into individual files. relay.cfg, reqinit.cfg, ... xmlrpc.cfg,
tovoicemail.cfg, etc... Making individual logic changes a bit easier.
To reach a fixed path solution, and keep some backwards compatibility,
the first step should be... Use import/include and move all the route
logic into /etc/kamailio/routing/basic.cfg
We can discuss on the mailing list or feel free to contact me directly.
Sincerely,
Brian LaVallee
19 Mar
19 Mar
12:33 p.m.
=D I believe you've learned too many applications.
Current syntax looks pretty fine for me and (as you've already mentioned)
any separation could be achieved with include's.
Anyway I'm strongly against idea of any compile-time paths.
2015-03-19 10:13 GMT+03:00 Brian LaVallee <brian.lavallee(a)invite-comm.jp>jp>:
Hi,
I would like to propose [and manage] an effort with the primary Kamailio
developers to simplify the configuration syntax. I'm not a developer, but
used lot's of different applications and I'm familiar with various
configuration formats.
Based on what I've seen, there are five (5) types of configuration
directives used with Kamailio.
- C-Style Control Directives
- Apache-Like Name/Value Pairs
- Normal Name/Value Pairs
- Modify Parameter Procedures
- Routing Logic Scripting
I do understand some of this may be the result of merging multiple
projects. But this mixture of syntax slows adoption, drastically increases
the learning curve for the user base. By implementing a consistent
standard to the configuration syntax, it will make using the application
less complicated.
--
My first recommendation, would be to separate the routing logic from the
primary configuration file. This can easily be done with import/include.
However, I feel that a fixed path should be added during compile.
‘--with-routing=/etc/kamailio/routing/’
Then it would possible to modify the configuration parser to read all the
files in that directory. Allowing the separation of the route logic into
individual files. relay.cfg, reqinit.cfg, ... xmlrpc.cfg, tovoicemail.cfg,
etc... Making individual logic changes a bit easier.
To reach a fixed path solution, and keep some backwards compatibility, the
first step should be... Use import/include and move all the route logic
into /etc/kamailio/routing/basic.cfg
We can discuss on the mailing list or feel free to contact me directly.
Sincerely,
Brian LaVallee
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Best regards,
Alekzander Spiridonov
1:37 p.m.
+1 on Alekzander statement
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Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2015 3:33 AM
To: Kamailio (SER) - Development Mailing List
Subject: Re: [sr-dev] Simplify the Configuration
=D I believe you've learned too many applications.
Current syntax looks pretty fine for me and (as you've already mentioned) any
separation could be achieved with include's.
Anyway I'm strongly against idea of any compile-time paths.
2015-03-19 10:13 GMT+03:00 Brian LaVallee
<brian.lavallee@invite-comm.jp<mailto:brian.lavallee@invite-comm.jp>>:
Hi,
I would like to propose [and manage] an effort with the primary Kamailio developers to
simplify the configuration syntax. I'm not a developer, but used lot's of
different applications and I'm familiar with various configuration formats.
Based on what I've seen, there are five (5) types of configuration directives used
with Kamailio.
- C-Style Control Directives
- Apache-Like Name/Value Pairs
- Normal Name/Value Pairs
- Modify Parameter Procedures
- Routing Logic Scripting
I do understand some of this may be the result of merging multiple projects. But this
mixture of syntax slows adoption, drastically increases the learning curve for the user
base. By implementing a consistent standard to the configuration syntax, it will make
using the application less complicated.
--
My first recommendation, would be to separate the routing logic from the primary
configuration file. This can easily be done with import/include. However, I feel that a
fixed path should be added during compile.
‘--with-routing=/etc/kamailio/routing/’
Then it would possible to modify the configuration parser to read all the files in that
directory. Allowing the separation of the route logic into individual files. relay.cfg,
reqinit.cfg, ... xmlrpc.cfg, tovoicemail.cfg, etc... Making individual logic changes a
bit easier.
To reach a fixed path solution, and keep some backwards compatibility, the first step
should be... Use import/include and move all the route logic into
/etc/kamailio/routing/basic.cfg
We can discuss on the mailing list or feel free to contact me directly.
Sincerely,
Brian LaVallee
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Best regards,
Alekzander Spiridonov
20 Mar
20 Mar
3:50 a.m.
I use a lot of applications. :)
So the mix/match syntax below is 'pretty fine' for you?
- #!define NAME VALUE
- NAME "VALUE"
- NAME=VALUE
- NAME="VALUE"; # required quotes are parameter specific
As a user, it can be painful figuring which syntax to use just to set a
simple name/value pair. Each method is basically equivalent in
functionality, but only one will work. And that depends on where it's
used in the configuration. This is what I really want to fix.
And don't forget, there's one more way we can set a name/value pair.
modparam("module_name", "NAME", "VALUE")
Changing the routing logic seemed to be the easiest to address, starting
with an include. With the simple goal of separating logic{..} from
configuration directives.
My thought here.. In order to fix the name/value syntax, leave the
current configuration parser untouched for routing logic. But first, we
have to separate the routing logic from the main configuration file.
Adding a compile option is just a longer term vision for a cleaner
configuration structure. A directory provides the user flexibility, but
a fixed routing_logic.cfg file works too. But even a fixed file should
be customizable as a compile option.
Sincerely,
Brian LaVallee
On 3/19/15 19:33, Alekzander Spiridonov wrote:
=D I believe you've learned too many
applications.
Current syntax looks pretty fine for me and (as you've already
mentioned) any separation could be achieved with include's.
Anyway I'm strongly against idea of any compile-time paths.
2015-03-19 10:13 GMT+03:00 Brian LaVallee
<brian.lavallee(a)invite-comm.jp <mailto:brian.lavallee@invite-comm.jp>>:
Hi,
I would like to propose [and manage] an effort with the primary
Kamailio developers to simplify the configuration syntax. I'm not
a developer, but used lot's of different applications and I'm
familiar with various configuration formats.
Based on what I've seen, there are five (5) types of configuration
directives used with Kamailio.
- C-Style Control Directives
- Apache-Like Name/Value Pairs
- Normal Name/Value Pairs
- Modify Parameter Procedures
- Routing Logic Scripting
I do understand some of this may be the result of merging multiple
projects. But this mixture of syntax slows adoption, drastically
increases the learning curve for the user base. By implementing a
consistent standard to the configuration syntax, it will make
using the application less complicated.
--
My first recommendation, would be to separate the routing logic
from the primary configuration file. This can easily be done with
import/include. However, I feel that a fixed path should be added
during compile.
‘--with-routing=/etc/kamailio/routing/’
Then it would possible to modify the configuration parser to read
all the files in that directory. Allowing the separation of the
route logic into individual files. relay.cfg, reqinit.cfg, ...
xmlrpc.cfg, tovoicemail.cfg, etc... Making individual logic
changes a bit easier.
To reach a fixed path solution, and keep some backwards
compatibility, the first step should be... Use import/include and
move all the route logic into /etc/kamailio/routing/basic.cfg
We can discuss on the mailing list or feel free to contact me
directly.
Sincerely,
Brian LaVallee
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