[SR-Users] Advice on taking the best path to build a Presence & IM server

José Seabra joseseabra4 at gmail.com
Tue Oct 24 22:01:00 CEST 2017


Hello Daniel,
Thank you for your feedback, it was also important receive another point of
view.

we won't follow the SIP SIMPLE path.
Right now we are looking for two options,  XMPP(Prosidy, ejabberd, etc) or
a solution based on websocktes and JSON for webrtc Apps,  itegrated with
kamailio for notifications to call states from and between physical phones
and webrtc app.

Thank you for your opinion

Best Regards
José

2017-10-18 16:59 GMT+01:00 Daniel-Constantin Mierla <miconda at gmail.com>:

> Hello,
>
> sip presence spec doesn't have many client library implementing it, so if
> you don't want to invest in that direction, it is minus, I expect xmpp has
> more options here.
>
> In terms of scalability, I cannot comment on xmpp, as I never did any
> large installation.
>
> SIP has a plus in routing flexibility, given by the headers and the fact
> that you can decide easier what would be the next hop in the path. Another
> plus with SIP would be integration with 4G networks where the core is using
> SIP for routing.
> One issue when running two protocols is the operations, practically there
> are two different infrastructures, one for sip and one for xmpp, adding the
> overhead of maintaining/monitoring/upgrading over the time.
>
> If you want the basic presence features, it should not be that complex
> even with sip. If you want to fully implement SIMPLE specs, then might be a
> lot of work.
>
> As a conclusion, if there is going to be use only one type of SIP client
> with IM&Prensece that you develop, then probably is ok to go for this way.
> If you expect to have many types of SIP IM&P clients implemented by
> different vendors, I expect difficult times ahead to get them work together
> nicely.
>
> Cheers,
> Daniel
>
>
> On 16.10.17 22:24, José Seabra wrote:
>
> Hello there,
> I'm writing here in order to get your experiences about a Presence & IM
> server.
>
> I would like to know what is the best solution to follow:
>
>    - SIP Simple or XMPP?
>
>
> I've more knowledge about SIP Simple with kamailio but i did some
> researches and i found several open sources unified communications software
> that's implement Presence and IM using an XMPP server.
> So what is your opinion about which is the best solution to choose, taking
> in considerations the following aspects:
>
>    1. scalability
>    2. interopeability
>    3. permornace
>    4. features(like: Personal assistance, voicemail integration, chat
>    group, integration with social media)
>
> Should i choose Kamailio SIP Simple with xcap or an XMPP server(Prosody or
> ejabberd, etc)
>
> I will appreciate a lot your opinion.
> Thank you
>
>
> Regards
> José
>
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