[Serusers] Interop? Re: [Serdev] Re: Re: TECHNICAL BOARD - Nomination and voting is open!
Greger V. Teigre
greger at teigre.com
Fri May 25 15:01:23 CEST 2007
On http:/iptel.org/ it is fairly explicit that the projects are
open-source, but you are right, http://www.iptel.org/ser didn't mention
it explicitly, which I have now corrected :-)
Thanks,
g-)
SIP wrote:
> Speaking of which, with the name 'OpenSER,' it's very easy for people to
> get the misconception that SER is a closed project and OpenSER is the
> open version of it. There ought to be some mention of 'open source' or
> at least the word 'open' somewhere on the SER project's main page (if
> there is, I didn't see it on cursory glance, so someone might need to
> re-evaluate the verbage). That might help alleviate some people's
> concerns about the overall nature of the SER project and how it's
> developed.
>
> With SER and OpenSER now becoming more and more divergent, and the
> project names themselves being incredibly misleading, a good, simple
> explanation of the nature of the SER project could go a long way.
>
> N.
>
>
> Greger V. Teigre wrote:
>
>> Hi Miklos,
>> I believe all the mentioned are already nominated and found on the
>> overview page. As for balance between companies, I hope we can avoid
>> having a majority from a single commercial entity, as this can
>> reinforce the (false) impression that iptel.org is controlled by a
>> commercial entity. That being said, people are nominated (and I'm
>> pretty sure also receive votes) based on their personal track record
>> and all the currently nominated people have IMHO clearly showed their
>> dedication across employers.
>> g-)
>>
>> Miklos Tirpak wrote:
>>
>>> Hi *,
>>>
>>> I would like to nominate Raphael Coeffic from SEMS development, Andrei
>>> Pelinescu-Onciul and Jan Janak from SER development, Greger V. Teigre
>>> and Martin Hoffmann from the boarder community.
>>>
>>> Looking at the actual state of the election I am just afraid that the
>>> result will not be so balanced between the companies, hopefully it will
>>> not cause any problem. Anyway, we can add some more people to the board
>>> later if there is a need for it.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Miklos
>>>
>>> On 05/24/2007 02:50 PM, Greger V. Teigre wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> I suggest we focus on the technical board right now and pick up that
>>>> ball a bit later. Note also that it's iptel.org contributors and not
>>>> only SER contributors who are within the scope of nominations to the
>>>> technical board.
>>>> g-)
>>>>
>>>> Jiri Kuthan wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Shall not we have another narrowly focused group for resolving interop
>>>>> issues, ideally recruited on a wider basis than SER contributors?
>>>>>
>>>>> -jiri
>>>>>
>>>>> At 12:41 24/05/2007, Jiri Kuthan wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Personally I will constrain myself to three however difficult it
>>>>>> may be (in alphabetical order): Andrei for his long-lasting core
>>>>>> achievements and insights, Jan for his so-many-modules and DB-model
>>>>>> achievements and insights, and Hendrik for his modules and hands-on
>>>>>> operational experience. (Notwisthanding that, I really have a long
>>>>>> list of other individuals whom I consider technically fit for that,
>>>>>> Greger, Nils, Martin, Maxim, Miklos, ... actually the list would become
>>>>>> longer and longer, one just hast to make a call...)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -jiri
>>>>>>
>>>>>> At 11:19 24/05/2007, Jan Janak wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I would like to nominate Stefan Sayer for SEMS, Jiri Kuthan and Andrei
>>>>>>> Pelinescu for SER, and last, but not least, Greger Teigre and Hendrik
>>>>>>> Scholz.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jan.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Greger V. Teigre wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Ok, I'll keep track of nominations on a new page on iptel.org if and
>>>>>>>> when people accept the nominations.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Let me start:
>>>>>>>> I would like to nominate Jan Janak and Andrei Pelinescu-Onciul for the
>>>>>>>> two developer positions (both due to their central involvement across
>>>>>>>> SER), N. (sip at arcdiv.com) as a user community representative (due to
>>>>>>>> long-time and valuable serusers activity), and Martin Hoffmann as a user
>>>>>>>> community representative (due to his strong SER credentials as book
>>>>>>>> auther, long-term developer and operator of service provider
>>>>>>>> installations).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> As Raphael has already accepted his nomination as a SEMS
>>>>>>>> representative/developer, I only nominate four.
>>>>>>>> g-)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> SIP wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> You ought to stick up a page on the Iptel site somewhere to keep track
>>>>>>>>> of who's been nominated perhaps, so people could reference it when
>>>>>>>>> deciding their votes. Just an idea.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I nominate Greger to keep track of all of this voting nominating
>>>>>>>>> stuff! Seconded? ;)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> N.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Greger Viken Teigre wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Why should voting be secret? We strive openness and transparency in
>>>>>>>>>> decision processes by making decisions through consensus on the
>>>>>>>>>> mailing lists. I think secret voting should have a very clear
>>>>>>>>>> rationale in order to prefer it.
>>>>>>>>>> g-)
>>>>>>>>>> ------- Original message -------
>>>>>>>>>> From: Martin Hoffmann <hn at nvnc.de>
>>>>>>>>>> Cc: serusers at lists.iptel.org, serdev at lists.iptel.org, semsdev at iptel.org
>>>>>>>>>> Sent: 18.5.'07, 10:54
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Greger V. Teigre wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I have received private questions on how to nominate and vote. My
>>>>>>>>>>>> interpretation is that nobody has suggested that we nominate and
>>>>>>>>>>>> vote using another procedure than default in consensus building:
>>>>>>>>>>>> posting to the list.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I think it is one main feature of all this voting business to be
>>>>>>>>>>> secret.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>> Martin
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>> --
>>>>> Jiri Kuthan http://iptel.org/~jiri/
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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