[Serusers] Interop? Re: [Serdev] Re: Re: TECHNICAL BOARD - Nomination and voting is open!
SIP
sip at arcdiv.com
Fri May 25 14:50:31 CEST 2007
Speaking of which, with the name 'OpenSER,' it's very easy for people to
get the misconception that SER is a closed project and OpenSER is the
open version of it. There ought to be some mention of 'open source' or
at least the word 'open' somewhere on the SER project's main page (if
there is, I didn't see it on cursory glance, so someone might need to
re-evaluate the verbage). That might help alleviate some people's
concerns about the overall nature of the SER project and how it's
developed.
With SER and OpenSER now becoming more and more divergent, and the
project names themselves being incredibly misleading, a good, simple
explanation of the nature of the SER project could go a long way.
N.
Greger V. Teigre wrote:
> Hi Miklos,
> I believe all the mentioned are already nominated and found on the
> overview page. As for balance between companies, I hope we can avoid
> having a majority from a single commercial entity, as this can
> reinforce the (false) impression that iptel.org is controlled by a
> commercial entity. That being said, people are nominated (and I'm
> pretty sure also receive votes) based on their personal track record
> and all the currently nominated people have IMHO clearly showed their
> dedication across employers.
> g-)
>
> Miklos Tirpak wrote:
>> Hi *,
>>
>> I would like to nominate Raphael Coeffic from SEMS development, Andrei
>> Pelinescu-Onciul and Jan Janak from SER development, Greger V. Teigre
>> and Martin Hoffmann from the boarder community.
>>
>> Looking at the actual state of the election I am just afraid that the
>> result will not be so balanced between the companies, hopefully it will
>> not cause any problem. Anyway, we can add some more people to the board
>> later if there is a need for it.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Miklos
>>
>> On 05/24/2007 02:50 PM, Greger V. Teigre wrote:
>>
>>> I suggest we focus on the technical board right now and pick up that
>>> ball a bit later. Note also that it's iptel.org contributors and not
>>> only SER contributors who are within the scope of nominations to the
>>> technical board.
>>> g-)
>>>
>>> Jiri Kuthan wrote:
>>>
>>>> Shall not we have another narrowly focused group for resolving interop
>>>> issues, ideally recruited on a wider basis than SER contributors?
>>>>
>>>> -jiri
>>>>
>>>> At 12:41 24/05/2007, Jiri Kuthan wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Personally I will constrain myself to three however difficult it
>>>>> may be (in alphabetical order): Andrei for his long-lasting core
>>>>> achievements and insights, Jan for his so-many-modules and DB-model
>>>>> achievements and insights, and Hendrik for his modules and hands-on
>>>>> operational experience. (Notwisthanding that, I really have a long
>>>>> list of other individuals whom I consider technically fit for that,
>>>>> Greger, Nils, Martin, Maxim, Miklos, ... actually the list would become
>>>>> longer and longer, one just hast to make a call...)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -jiri
>>>>>
>>>>> At 11:19 24/05/2007, Jan Janak wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> I would like to nominate Stefan Sayer for SEMS, Jiri Kuthan and Andrei
>>>>>> Pelinescu for SER, and last, but not least, Greger Teigre and Hendrik
>>>>>> Scholz.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jan.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Greger V. Teigre wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ok, I'll keep track of nominations on a new page on iptel.org if and
>>>>>>> when people accept the nominations.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Let me start:
>>>>>>> I would like to nominate Jan Janak and Andrei Pelinescu-Onciul for the
>>>>>>> two developer positions (both due to their central involvement across
>>>>>>> SER), N. (sip at arcdiv.com) as a user community representative (due to
>>>>>>> long-time and valuable serusers activity), and Martin Hoffmann as a user
>>>>>>> community representative (due to his strong SER credentials as book
>>>>>>> auther, long-term developer and operator of service provider
>>>>>>> installations).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> As Raphael has already accepted his nomination as a SEMS
>>>>>>> representative/developer, I only nominate four.
>>>>>>> g-)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> SIP wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You ought to stick up a page on the Iptel site somewhere to keep track
>>>>>>>> of who's been nominated perhaps, so people could reference it when
>>>>>>>> deciding their votes. Just an idea.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I nominate Greger to keep track of all of this voting nominating
>>>>>>>> stuff! Seconded? ;)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> N.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Greger Viken Teigre wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Why should voting be secret? We strive openness and transparency in
>>>>>>>>> decision processes by making decisions through consensus on the
>>>>>>>>> mailing lists. I think secret voting should have a very clear
>>>>>>>>> rationale in order to prefer it.
>>>>>>>>> g-)
>>>>>>>>> ------- Original message -------
>>>>>>>>> From: Martin Hoffmann <hn at nvnc.de>
>>>>>>>>> Cc: serusers at lists.iptel.org, serdev at lists.iptel.org, semsdev at iptel.org
>>>>>>>>> Sent: 18.5.'07, 10:54
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Greger V. Teigre wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I have received private questions on how to nominate and vote. My
>>>>>>>>>>> interpretation is that nobody has suggested that we nominate and
>>>>>>>>>>> vote using another procedure than default in consensus building:
>>>>>>>>>>> posting to the list.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I think it is one main feature of all this voting business to be
>>>>>>>>>> secret.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>> Martin
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>
>>>>
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