[Kamailio-Users] poll: project name

[luzango mfupe]

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Not bad at all i bet most of us here would prefer an English name!!! Why
Kamailio is bad??? relax guys u will be able to pronounce it well soon...
My choice iiis numberrr 2.


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>   4. Re: [Kamailio-Devel]  poll: project name (David Villasmil)
>   5. Re: [Kamailio-Devel] poll: project name ( I?aki Baz Castillo )
>   6. Re: poll: project name (Carsten Bock)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 13:39:29 +0200
> From: Klaus Darilion <klaus.mailinglists at pernau.at>
> Subject: Re: [Kamailio-Users] [Kamailio-Devel] poll: project name
> To: miconda at gmail.com
> Cc: users <users at lists.kamailio.net>, devel <devel at lists.kamailio.net>
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> speaking as user:
> 1) Yes, I love it. Please keep it.
>
> Daniel-Constantin Mierla schrieb:
> > Hello everybody,
> >
> > some people expressed inconveniences regarding the new name, so we would
> > like to get your opinion about, therefore this is a poll that will get
> > us to a decision. Here is the question:
> >
> > Do you like the name "Kamailio"?
> > 1) Yes, I love it. Please keep it.
> > 2) It is OK.
> > 3) I do not mind the name at all
> > 4) I do not like it
> > 5) I hate the name and we should change it
> >
> > There is no need of explanations, as it is up to personal taste and
> > decision. Just vote by option.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Daniel
> >
> > PS. for those interested...
> >
> > As short history about renaming story. On the 28th of March the board
> > was informed about issues with SER part of project name. You can easily
> > find who has the trademarks. On the 7th of April the board was informed
> > about an agreement for the deadline as of September 30, 2008 to use old
> > name. From there on, all old releases, documents, etc. can be referred
> > by the old name, but nothing new. Other few discussions about what
> > should/could be kept/changed followed and on 12th of May started the
> > discussion about the new name with two main direction, something
> > similar, to remind about old project or just something completely new,
> > to be used as brand name. Couple of proposals and discussions regarding
> > possible names followed up to 16th of July when was the deadline and the
> > start of vote. Majority was reached on 17th but it was required to have
> > opinions from all members of the board, last came from Bogdan, on the
> > 28th of July.
> >
> > All discussions about migration were on the board mailing list. No
> > change were done to openser.org configuration, just the new domain with
> > kamailio in it was pointed to same server. Every step done was reported
> > to board, following a schedule discussed there. Another discussion was
> > about making the renaming and 1.4.0 release in same day. Being
> > practically impossible to do all the work in one day, it was decided to
> > do first the announcement about renaming. That happened on 28th when all
> > agreed with the new name.
> >
> > As you can see, there was no 5 months of renaming duration. There was no
> > change in openser.org DNS configuration undertaken with/without the
> > knowledge of all board members. The new name domains were reserved when
> > majority was achieved, in any case; dns entries for new name were
> > pointed to old server shortly after booking the domains.
> >
>
>
>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 13:52:02 +0200
> From: "Yazid Hadj Said" <yazid.hadjsaid at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Kamailio-Users] poll: project name
> To: users at lists.kamailio.net
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> Hi all,
>
>
> >Do you like the name "Kamailio"?
> >1) Yes, I love it. Please keep it.
> >2) It is OK.
> >3) I do not mind the name at all
> >4) I do not like it
> >5) I hate the name and we should change it
>
> I do not like it.
> I think that at least the word "Open"  must be included in the new name
>
>
> Regards
> Yazid
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> Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 14:02:31 +0200
> From: "Ardjan Zwartjes" <a.zwartjes at telecats.nl>
> Subject: Re: [Kamailio-Users] poll: project name
> To: "users" <users at lists.kamailio.net>
> Cc: devel <devel at lists.kamailio.net>
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> >I don't like the name. Not so good to pronounce :)
>
> Does this actually mean that somebody knows how it's pronounced? ;) I am
> quite curious about the correct pronounciation.
>
> >Do you like the name "Kamailio"?
> >1) Yes, I love it. Please keep it.
> >2) It is OK.
> >3) I do not mind the name at all
> >4) I do not like it
> >5) I hate the name and we should change it
>
> That 4 for me, I don't think that the new name sounds very "mature",
> which might hurt the image people have of this project (and
> unfortunately in light of the current developments I don't think this
> image needs more damage at the moment). But I'm not quite sure that
> changing the name again would be a good idea either, after 1 name
> change, a fork and several "heated" arguments on the mailing lists
> (that's the most diplomatic and understated description I've ever made)
> I think some stability for now would be best.
>
> Kind regards,
> Ardjan Zwartjes.
>
>
>
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> Message: 4
> Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 14:24:59 +0200
> From: "David Villasmil" <david.villasmil.work at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Kamailio-Users] [Kamailio-Devel]  poll: project name
> To: "Ardjan Zwartjes" <a.zwartjes at telecats.nl>
> Cc: users <users at lists.kamailio.net>, devel <devel at lists.kamailio.net>
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> 5
> should be something like
>
> exsip.org
>
> ;)
>
> On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 2:02 PM, Ardjan Zwartjes <a.zwartjes at telecats.nl
> >wrote:
>
> >
> > >I don't like the name. Not so good to pronounce :)
> >
> > Does this actually mean that somebody knows how it's pronounced? ;) I am
> > quite curious about the correct pronounciation.
> >
> > >Do you like the name "Kamailio"?
> > >1) Yes, I love it. Please keep it.
> > >2) It is OK.
> > >3) I do not mind the name at all
> > >4) I do not like it
> > >5) I hate the name and we should change it
> >
> > That 4 for me, I don't think that the new name sounds very "mature",
> > which might hurt the image people have of this project (and
> > unfortunately in light of the current developments I don't think this
> > image needs more damage at the moment). But I'm not quite sure that
> > changing the name again would be a good idea either, after 1 name
> > change, a fork and several "heated" arguments on the mailing lists
> > (that's the most diplomatic and understated description I've ever made)
> > I think some stability for now would be best.
> >
> > Kind regards,
> > Ardjan Zwartjes.
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Devel mailing list
> > Devel at lists.kamailio.org
> > http://lists.kamailio.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/devel
> >
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> Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 14:32:54 +0200
> From: " I?aki Baz Castillo " <ibc at aliax.net>
> Subject: Re: [Kamailio-Users] [Kamailio-Devel] poll: project name
> Cc: users <users at lists.kamailio.net>, devel <devel at lists.kamailio.net>
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> 2008/8/11, David Villasmil <david.villasmil.work at gmail.com>:
> > 5
> > should be something like
> >
> > exsip.org
>
> Please, don't suggest names in the public maillist since anyone could
> buy the domain ;)
>
>
> --
> I?aki Baz Castillo
> <ibc at aliax.net>
>
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>
> Message: 6
> Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 14:34:38 +0200
> From: Carsten Bock <lists at bock.info>
> Subject: Re: [Kamailio-Users] poll: project name
> To: miconda at gmail.com
> Cc: users <users at lists.kamailio.net>, devel <devel at lists.kamailio.net>
> Message-ID: <1218458078.7918.4.camel at carsten-desktop>
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> Hi,
>
> i also take 4.
> I mistyped the name several times... the old name (though not available
> anymore) was much better to remember and more clear what the project was
> about...
>
> Carsten
>
> Am Montag, den 11.08.2008, 13:50 +0300 schrieb Daniel-Constantin Mierla:
> > Hello everybody,
> >
> > some people expressed inconveniences regarding the new name, so we would
> > like to get your opinion about, therefore this is a poll that will get
> > us to a decision. Here is the question:
> >
> > Do you like the name "Kamailio"?
> > 1) Yes, I love it. Please keep it.
> > 2) It is OK.
> > 3) I do not mind the name at all
> > 4) I do not like it
> > 5) I hate the name and we should change it
> >
> > There is no need of explanations, as it is up to personal taste and
> > decision. Just vote by option.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Daniel
> >
> > PS. for those interested...
> >
> > As short history about renaming story. On the 28th of March the board
> > was informed about issues with SER part of project name. You can easily
> > find who has the trademarks. On the 7th of April the board was informed
> > about an agreement for the deadline as of September 30, 2008 to use old
> > name. From there on, all old releases, documents, etc. can be referred
> > by the old name, but nothing new. Other few discussions about what
> > should/could be kept/changed followed and on 12th of May started the
> > discussion about the new name with two main direction, something
> > similar, to remind about old project or just something completely new,
> > to be used as brand name. Couple of proposals and discussions regarding
> > possible names followed up to 16th of July when was the deadline and the
> > start of vote. Majority was reached on 17th but it was required to have
> > opinions from all members of the board, last came from Bogdan, on the
> > 28th of July.
> >
> > All discussions about migration were on the board mailing list. No
> > change were done to openser.org configuration, just the new domain with
> > kamailio in it was pointed to same server. Every step done was reported
> > to board, following a schedule discussed there. Another discussion was
> > about making the renaming and 1.4.0 release in same day. Being
> > practically impossible to do all the work in one day, it was decided to
> > do first the announcement about renaming. That happened on 28th when all
> > agreed with the new name.
> >
> > As you can see, there was no 5 months of renaming duration. There was no
> > change in openser.org DNS configuration undertaken with/without the
> > knowledge of all board members. The new name domains were reserved when
> > majority was achieved, in any case; dns entries for new name were
> > pointed to old server shortly after booking the domains.
> >
>
>
>
>
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>
> Message: 7
> Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 08:32:44 -0400
> From: Alex Balashov <abalashov at evaristesys.com>
> Subject: Re: [Kamailio-Users] poll: project name
> To: miconda at gmail.com
> Cc: users <users at lists.kamailio.net>, devel <devel at lists.kamailio.net>
> Message-ID: <48A0316C.5030306 at evaristesys.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
> I have already expressed some of my thoughts on the choice of name in
> times past, but at this point I'm going to go for option 3 - I don't
> mind it.
>
> Not because I truly feel the name befits the project, but simply as a
> pragmatic recognition that considerable work has already been put into
> changing the name to Kamailio by Daniel-Constantin, Elena-Ramona, Juha
> Heinanen, Henning Westerholt, and others.  It would be a shame if their
> valuable efforts were in vain.
>
> What this project doesn't need is yet *another* name change;  that would
> just seem downright capricious to outsiders not privy to the nuances.
>
> Daniel-Constantin Mierla wrote:
>
> > Hello everybody,
> >
> > some people expressed inconveniences regarding the new name, so we would
> > like to get your opinion about, therefore this is a poll that will get
> > us to a decision. Here is the question:
> >
> > Do you like the name "Kamailio"?
> > 1) Yes, I love it. Please keep it.
> > 2) It is OK.
> > 3) I do not mind the name at all
> > 4) I do not like it
> > 5) I hate the name and we should change it
>
>
> --
> Alex Balashov
> Evariste Systems
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> Direct : (+1) (678) 954-0671
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>
>
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>
> Message: 8
> Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 14:37:56 +0200
> From: Johansson Olle E <oej at edvina.net>
> Subject: Re: [Kamailio-Users] poll: project name
> To: miconda at gmail.com
> Cc: users <users at lists.kamailio.net>, devel <devel at lists.kamailio.net>
> Message-ID: <C4394C1B-CCE9-439B-BEA3-C9F01D480859 at edvina.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
>
> 11 aug 2008 kl. 12.50 skrev Daniel-Constantin Mierla:
>
> > Hello everybody,
> >
> > some people expressed inconveniences regarding the new name, so we
> > would
> > like to get your opinion about, therefore this is a poll that will get
> > us to a decision. Here is the question:
> >
> > Do you like the name "Kamailio"?
> > 1) Yes, I love it. Please keep it.
> > 2) It is OK.
> > 3) I do not mind the name at all
> > 4) I do not like it
>
> I'll go with 2. Hard to say that I love it ... yet. A name is
> something we create and fill
> with meaning. This one's free, available and weird enough to be
> remembered.
> It's very hard to come up with those names.
>
> /O
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> Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 14:42:37 +0200
> From: "David Villasmil" <david.villasmil.work at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Kamailio-Users] [Kamailio-Devel] poll: project name
> Cc: users <users at lists.kamailio.net>, devel <devel at lists.kamailio.net>
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> Sorry about that... didn't think people belonging to this list would be
> such
> vultures! ;-)
>
> David
>
> On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 2:32 PM, I?aki Baz Castillo <ibc at aliax.net> wrote:
>
> > 2008/8/11, David Villasmil <david.villasmil.work at gmail.com>:
> > > 5
> > > should be something like
> > >
> > > exsip.org
> >
> > Please, don't suggest names in the public maillist since anyone could
> > buy the domain ;)
> >
> >
> > --
> > I?aki Baz Castillo
> > <ibc at aliax.net>
> > _______________________________________________
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