<div dir="ltr">"Free to Talk" <br>Not bad at all i bet most of us here would prefer an English name!!! Why Kamailio is bad??? relax guys u will be able to pronounce it well soon...<br>My choice iiis numberrr 2.<br>
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4. Re: [Kamailio-Devel] poll: project name (David Villasmil)<br>
5. Re: [Kamailio-Devel] poll: project name ( I?aki Baz Castillo )<br>
6. Re: poll: project name (Carsten Bock)<br>
7. Re: poll: project name (Alex Balashov)<br>
8. Re: poll: project name (Johansson Olle E)<br>
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Message: 1<br>
Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 13:39:29 +0200<br>
From: Klaus Darilion <<a href="mailto:klaus.mailinglists@pernau.at">klaus.mailinglists@pernau.at</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [Kamailio-Users] [Kamailio-Devel] poll: project name<br>
To: <a href="mailto:miconda@gmail.com">miconda@gmail.com</a><br>
Cc: users <<a href="mailto:users@lists.kamailio.net">users@lists.kamailio.net</a>>, devel <<a href="mailto:devel@lists.kamailio.net">devel@lists.kamailio.net</a>><br>
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speaking as user:<br>
1) Yes, I love it. Please keep it.<br>
<br>
Daniel-Constantin Mierla schrieb:<br>
> Hello everybody,<br>
><br>
> some people expressed inconveniences regarding the new name, so we would<br>
> like to get your opinion about, therefore this is a poll that will get<br>
> us to a decision. Here is the question:<br>
><br>
> Do you like the name "Kamailio"?<br>
> 1) Yes, I love it. Please keep it.<br>
> 2) It is OK.<br>
> 3) I do not mind the name at all<br>
> 4) I do not like it<br>
> 5) I hate the name and we should change it<br>
><br>
> There is no need of explanations, as it is up to personal taste and<br>
> decision. Just vote by option.<br>
><br>
> Cheers,<br>
> Daniel<br>
><br>
> PS. for those interested...<br>
><br>
> As short history about renaming story. On the 28th of March the board<br>
> was informed about issues with SER part of project name. You can easily<br>
> find who has the trademarks. On the 7th of April the board was informed<br>
> about an agreement for the deadline as of September 30, 2008 to use old<br>
> name. From there on, all old releases, documents, etc. can be referred<br>
> by the old name, but nothing new. Other few discussions about what<br>
> should/could be kept/changed followed and on 12th of May started the<br>
> discussion about the new name with two main direction, something<br>
> similar, to remind about old project or just something completely new,<br>
> to be used as brand name. Couple of proposals and discussions regarding<br>
> possible names followed up to 16th of July when was the deadline and the<br>
> start of vote. Majority was reached on 17th but it was required to have<br>
> opinions from all members of the board, last came from Bogdan, on the<br>
> 28th of July.<br>
><br>
> All discussions about migration were on the board mailing list. No<br>
> change were done to <a href="http://openser.org" target="_blank">openser.org</a> configuration, just the new domain with<br>
> kamailio in it was pointed to same server. Every step done was reported<br>
> to board, following a schedule discussed there. Another discussion was<br>
> about making the renaming and 1.4.0 release in same day. Being<br>
> practically impossible to do all the work in one day, it was decided to<br>
> do first the announcement about renaming. That happened on 28th when all<br>
> agreed with the new name.<br>
><br>
> As you can see, there was no 5 months of renaming duration. There was no<br>
> change in <a href="http://openser.org" target="_blank">openser.org</a> DNS configuration undertaken with/without the<br>
> knowledge of all board members. The new name domains were reserved when<br>
> majority was achieved, in any case; dns entries for new name were<br>
> pointed to old server shortly after booking the domains.<br>
><br>
<br>
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Message: 2<br>
Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 13:52:02 +0200<br>
From: "Yazid Hadj Said" <<a href="mailto:yazid.hadjsaid@gmail.com">yazid.hadjsaid@gmail.com</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [Kamailio-Users] poll: project name<br>
To: <a href="mailto:users@lists.kamailio.net">users@lists.kamailio.net</a><br>
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Hi all,<br>
<br>
<br>
>Do you like the name "Kamailio"?<br>
>1) Yes, I love it. Please keep it.<br>
>2) It is OK.<br>
>3) I do not mind the name at all<br>
>4) I do not like it<br>
>5) I hate the name and we should change it<br>
<br>
I do not like it.<br>
I think that at least the word "Open" must be included in the new name<br>
<br>
<br>
Regards<br>
Yazid<br>
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Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 14:02:31 +0200<br>
From: "Ardjan Zwartjes" <<a href="mailto:a.zwartjes@telecats.nl">a.zwartjes@telecats.nl</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [Kamailio-Users] poll: project name<br>
To: "users" <<a href="mailto:users@lists.kamailio.net">users@lists.kamailio.net</a>><br>
Cc: devel <<a href="mailto:devel@lists.kamailio.net">devel@lists.kamailio.net</a>><br>
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>I don't like the name. Not so good to pronounce :)<br>
<br>
Does this actually mean that somebody knows how it's pronounced? ;) I am<br>
quite curious about the correct pronounciation.<br>
<br>
>Do you like the name "Kamailio"?<br>
>1) Yes, I love it. Please keep it.<br>
>2) It is OK.<br>
>3) I do not mind the name at all<br>
>4) I do not like it<br>
>5) I hate the name and we should change it<br>
<br>
That 4 for me, I don't think that the new name sounds very "mature",<br>
which might hurt the image people have of this project (and<br>
unfortunately in light of the current developments I don't think this<br>
image needs more damage at the moment). But I'm not quite sure that<br>
changing the name again would be a good idea either, after 1 name<br>
change, a fork and several "heated" arguments on the mailing lists<br>
(that's the most diplomatic and understated description I've ever made)<br>
I think some stability for now would be best.<br>
<br>
Kind regards,<br>
Ardjan Zwartjes.<br>
<br>
<br>
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Message: 4<br>
Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 14:24:59 +0200<br>
From: "David Villasmil" <<a href="mailto:david.villasmil.work@gmail.com">david.villasmil.work@gmail.com</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [Kamailio-Users] [Kamailio-Devel] poll: project name<br>
To: "Ardjan Zwartjes" <<a href="mailto:a.zwartjes@telecats.nl">a.zwartjes@telecats.nl</a>><br>
Cc: users <<a href="mailto:users@lists.kamailio.net">users@lists.kamailio.net</a>>, devel <<a href="mailto:devel@lists.kamailio.net">devel@lists.kamailio.net</a>><br>
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5<br>
should be something like<br>
<br>
<a href="http://exsip.org" target="_blank">exsip.org</a><br>
<br>
;)<br>
<br>
On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 2:02 PM, Ardjan Zwartjes <<a href="mailto:a.zwartjes@telecats.nl">a.zwartjes@telecats.nl</a>>wrote:<br>
<br>
><br>
> >I don't like the name. Not so good to pronounce :)<br>
><br>
> Does this actually mean that somebody knows how it's pronounced? ;) I am<br>
> quite curious about the correct pronounciation.<br>
><br>
> >Do you like the name "Kamailio"?<br>
> >1) Yes, I love it. Please keep it.<br>
> >2) It is OK.<br>
> >3) I do not mind the name at all<br>
> >4) I do not like it<br>
> >5) I hate the name and we should change it<br>
><br>
> That 4 for me, I don't think that the new name sounds very "mature",<br>
> which might hurt the image people have of this project (and<br>
> unfortunately in light of the current developments I don't think this<br>
> image needs more damage at the moment). But I'm not quite sure that<br>
> changing the name again would be a good idea either, after 1 name<br>
> change, a fork and several "heated" arguments on the mailing lists<br>
> (that's the most diplomatic and understated description I've ever made)<br>
> I think some stability for now would be best.<br>
><br>
> Kind regards,<br>
> Ardjan Zwartjes.<br>
><br>
> _______________________________________________<br>
> Devel mailing list<br>
> <a href="mailto:Devel@lists.kamailio.org">Devel@lists.kamailio.org</a><br>
> <a href="http://lists.kamailio.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/devel" target="_blank">http://lists.kamailio.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/devel</a><br>
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Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 14:32:54 +0200<br>
From: " I?aki Baz Castillo " <<a href="mailto:ibc@aliax.net">ibc@aliax.net</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [Kamailio-Users] [Kamailio-Devel] poll: project name<br>
Cc: users <<a href="mailto:users@lists.kamailio.net">users@lists.kamailio.net</a>>, devel <<a href="mailto:devel@lists.kamailio.net">devel@lists.kamailio.net</a>><br>
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2008/8/11, David Villasmil <<a href="mailto:david.villasmil.work@gmail.com">david.villasmil.work@gmail.com</a>>:<br>
> 5<br>
> should be something like<br>
><br>
> <a href="http://exsip.org" target="_blank">exsip.org</a><br>
<br>
Please, don't suggest names in the public maillist since anyone could<br>
buy the domain ;)<br>
<br>
<br>
--<br>
I?aki Baz Castillo<br>
<<a href="mailto:ibc@aliax.net">ibc@aliax.net</a>><br>
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Message: 6<br>
Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 14:34:38 +0200<br>
From: Carsten Bock <<a href="mailto:lists@bock.info">lists@bock.info</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [Kamailio-Users] poll: project name<br>
To: <a href="mailto:miconda@gmail.com">miconda@gmail.com</a><br>
Cc: users <<a href="mailto:users@lists.kamailio.net">users@lists.kamailio.net</a>>, devel <<a href="mailto:devel@lists.kamailio.net">devel@lists.kamailio.net</a>><br>
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Hi,<br>
<br>
i also take 4.<br>
I mistyped the name several times... the old name (though not available<br>
anymore) was much better to remember and more clear what the project was<br>
about...<br>
<br>
Carsten<br>
<br>
Am Montag, den 11.08.2008, 13:50 +0300 schrieb Daniel-Constantin Mierla:<br>
> Hello everybody,<br>
><br>
> some people expressed inconveniences regarding the new name, so we would<br>
> like to get your opinion about, therefore this is a poll that will get<br>
> us to a decision. Here is the question:<br>
><br>
> Do you like the name "Kamailio"?<br>
> 1) Yes, I love it. Please keep it.<br>
> 2) It is OK.<br>
> 3) I do not mind the name at all<br>
> 4) I do not like it<br>
> 5) I hate the name and we should change it<br>
><br>
> There is no need of explanations, as it is up to personal taste and<br>
> decision. Just vote by option.<br>
><br>
> Cheers,<br>
> Daniel<br>
><br>
> PS. for those interested...<br>
><br>
> As short history about renaming story. On the 28th of March the board<br>
> was informed about issues with SER part of project name. You can easily<br>
> find who has the trademarks. On the 7th of April the board was informed<br>
> about an agreement for the deadline as of September 30, 2008 to use old<br>
> name. From there on, all old releases, documents, etc. can be referred<br>
> by the old name, but nothing new. Other few discussions about what<br>
> should/could be kept/changed followed and on 12th of May started the<br>
> discussion about the new name with two main direction, something<br>
> similar, to remind about old project or just something completely new,<br>
> to be used as brand name. Couple of proposals and discussions regarding<br>
> possible names followed up to 16th of July when was the deadline and the<br>
> start of vote. Majority was reached on 17th but it was required to have<br>
> opinions from all members of the board, last came from Bogdan, on the<br>
> 28th of July.<br>
><br>
> All discussions about migration were on the board mailing list. No<br>
> change were done to <a href="http://openser.org" target="_blank">openser.org</a> configuration, just the new domain with<br>
> kamailio in it was pointed to same server. Every step done was reported<br>
> to board, following a schedule discussed there. Another discussion was<br>
> about making the renaming and 1.4.0 release in same day. Being<br>
> practically impossible to do all the work in one day, it was decided to<br>
> do first the announcement about renaming. That happened on 28th when all<br>
> agreed with the new name.<br>
><br>
> As you can see, there was no 5 months of renaming duration. There was no<br>
> change in <a href="http://openser.org" target="_blank">openser.org</a> DNS configuration undertaken with/without the<br>
> knowledge of all board members. The new name domains were reserved when<br>
> majority was achieved, in any case; dns entries for new name were<br>
> pointed to old server shortly after booking the domains.<br>
><br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
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Message: 7<br>
Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 08:32:44 -0400<br>
From: Alex Balashov <<a href="mailto:abalashov@evaristesys.com">abalashov@evaristesys.com</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [Kamailio-Users] poll: project name<br>
To: <a href="mailto:miconda@gmail.com">miconda@gmail.com</a><br>
Cc: users <<a href="mailto:users@lists.kamailio.net">users@lists.kamailio.net</a>>, devel <<a href="mailto:devel@lists.kamailio.net">devel@lists.kamailio.net</a>><br>
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I have already expressed some of my thoughts on the choice of name in<br>
times past, but at this point I'm going to go for option 3 - I don't<br>
mind it.<br>
<br>
Not because I truly feel the name befits the project, but simply as a<br>
pragmatic recognition that considerable work has already been put into<br>
changing the name to Kamailio by Daniel-Constantin, Elena-Ramona, Juha<br>
Heinanen, Henning Westerholt, and others. It would be a shame if their<br>
valuable efforts were in vain.<br>
<br>
What this project doesn't need is yet *another* name change; that would<br>
just seem downright capricious to outsiders not privy to the nuances.<br>
<br>
Daniel-Constantin Mierla wrote:<br>
<br>
> Hello everybody,<br>
><br>
> some people expressed inconveniences regarding the new name, so we would<br>
> like to get your opinion about, therefore this is a poll that will get<br>
> us to a decision. Here is the question:<br>
><br>
> Do you like the name "Kamailio"?<br>
> 1) Yes, I love it. Please keep it.<br>
> 2) It is OK.<br>
> 3) I do not mind the name at all<br>
> 4) I do not like it<br>
> 5) I hate the name and we should change it<br>
<br>
<br>
--<br>
Alex Balashov<br>
Evariste Systems<br>
Web : <a href="http://www.evaristesys.com/" target="_blank">http://www.evaristesys.com/</a><br>
Tel : (+1) (678) 954-0670<br>
Direct : (+1) (678) 954-0671<br>
Mobile : (+1) (706) 338-8599<br>
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Message: 8<br>
Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 14:37:56 +0200<br>
From: Johansson Olle E <<a href="mailto:oej@edvina.net">oej@edvina.net</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [Kamailio-Users] poll: project name<br>
To: <a href="mailto:miconda@gmail.com">miconda@gmail.com</a><br>
Cc: users <<a href="mailto:users@lists.kamailio.net">users@lists.kamailio.net</a>>, devel <<a href="mailto:devel@lists.kamailio.net">devel@lists.kamailio.net</a>><br>
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<br>
11 aug 2008 kl. 12.50 skrev Daniel-Constantin Mierla:<br>
<br>
> Hello everybody,<br>
><br>
> some people expressed inconveniences regarding the new name, so we<br>
> would<br>
> like to get your opinion about, therefore this is a poll that will get<br>
> us to a decision. Here is the question:<br>
><br>
> Do you like the name "Kamailio"?<br>
> 1) Yes, I love it. Please keep it.<br>
> 2) It is OK.<br>
> 3) I do not mind the name at all<br>
> 4) I do not like it<br>
<br>
I'll go with 2. Hard to say that I love it ... yet. A name is<br>
something we create and fill<br>
with meaning. This one's free, available and weird enough to be<br>
remembered.<br>
It's very hard to come up with those names.<br>
<br>
/O<br>
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Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 14:42:37 +0200<br>
From: "David Villasmil" <<a href="mailto:david.villasmil.work@gmail.com">david.villasmil.work@gmail.com</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [Kamailio-Users] [Kamailio-Devel] poll: project name<br>
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Sorry about that... didn't think people belonging to this list would be such<br>
vultures! ;-)<br>
<br>
David<br>
<br>
On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 2:32 PM, I?aki Baz Castillo <<a href="mailto:ibc@aliax.net">ibc@aliax.net</a>> wrote:<br>
<br>
> 2008/8/11, David Villasmil <<a href="mailto:david.villasmil.work@gmail.com">david.villasmil.work@gmail.com</a>>:<br>
> > 5<br>
> > should be something like<br>
> ><br>
> > <a href="http://exsip.org" target="_blank">exsip.org</a><br>
><br>
> Please, don't suggest names in the public maillist since anyone could<br>
> buy the domain ;)<br>
><br>
><br>
> --<br>
> I?aki Baz Castillo<br>
> <<a href="mailto:ibc@aliax.net">ibc@aliax.net</a>><br>
> _______________________________________________<br>
> Users mailing list<br>
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