[SR-Users] Calling users on another kamailio server

Charles Chance charles.chance at sipcentric.com
Mon Sep 16 17:06:24 CEST 2013


Peter - calling msg_apply_changes() after add_path() should indeed work,
I'm sure, so thanks for pointing it out. However, when testing I'm getting
parse errors in debug output, so am unable to confirm at this time.

Brian - which version are you using? Anything in log? After calling save(),
path column in DB is empty?



On 16 September 2013 15:18, Brian Wallen <bwallen at gmail.com> wrote:

> In my test setup the registrar is at the edge and add_path() does in fact
> do nothing. I also tried Charles' suggestion which didn't seem to add the
> Path header either.
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 10:04 AM, Peter Dunkley <
> peter.dunkley at crocodilertc.net> wrote:
>
>> I thought append_hf() didn't take affect (unless you use
>> msg_apply_changes()) until the message left Kamailio too?
>>
>> If that is the case, and msg_apply_changes() is called, doesn't that mean
>> the Path: header from add_path() would be added in that scenario?
>>
>>
>> On 16 September 2013 14:49, Charles Chance <charles.chance at sipcentric.com
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> It is possible if the edge proxy and registrar are separate, as you say.
>>> But if the registrar is at the edge with no separate proxy, add_path() does
>>> nothing (because the message never leaves Kamailio for the header to be
>>> added).
>>>
>>>
>>> On 16 September 2013 14:42, Peter Dunkley <
>>> peter.dunkley at crocodilertc.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Is there any reason it isn't possible?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 16 September 2013 14:21, Charles Chance <
>>>> charles.chance at sipcentric.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes, you are right - and I agree, it would be better if this was
>>>>> possible :)
>>>>>
>>>>> Charles
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 16 September 2013 14:15, Peter Dunkley <
>>>>> peter.dunkley at crocodilertc.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It'd be better if the "add_path()" function could be used here.  That
>>>>>> way, if using outbound (RFC5626), the flow-token (the userinfo part of the
>>>>>> Path-URI) would be present and there would be no need to add the
>>>>>> ";received" parameter.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This would address the one issue remaining for SIP outbound on
>>>>>> Kamailio, which is its use without an edge proxy that is separate from the
>>>>>> registrar.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Peter
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 16 September 2013 14:05, Charles Chance <
>>>>>> charles.chance at sipcentric.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This sounds like a case for sharing same database, and adding Path
>>>>>>> before saving incoming register. That way, no need to replicate register
>>>>>>> message to other servers and all subscribers use the same domain.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Add path something like this before calling save():
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>                         append_hf("Path: <sip:$Ri:$Rp;
>>>>>>> received=sip:$si:$sp;lr>\r\n");
>>>>>>>                         msg_apply_changes();
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Whichever server receives the incoming invite, will perform lookup
>>>>>>> and automatically route to the server which received the register. On the
>>>>>>> proxying server set $du according to received param of route header, add
>>>>>>> record-route, and then t_relay(). As Daniel said, no need to
>>>>>>> re-authenticate or perform lookup again.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Charles
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 7:34 AM, Daniel-Constantin Mierla <
>>>>>>> miconda at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 9/12/13 10:08 PM, Brian Wallen wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I currently have two independent kamailio servers. I'd like to set
>>>>>>>>> them up in a way that user1 on server1 can make a call to user2 on server2.
>>>>>>>>> After searching I've come up with two ways that this might be able to be
>>>>>>>>> done. Can someone please sanity check these or point me in the right
>>>>>>>>> direction?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 1. Have one registrar server and convert the other server to a
>>>>>>>>> proxy
>>>>>>>>> 2. Keep them both as registrars and somehow make them each aware
>>>>>>>>> of the users on the other server
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I like 2 better because if one server went down users on the other
>>>>>>>>> server would still be up. The only thing is I don't know how to set the
>>>>>>>>> servers up to communicate with each other.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> the nat can create problems when a server is down - if the nat is
>>>>>>>> symmetric, only the server that received the registrar can send back calls
>>>>>>>> to the phone.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Communication between users on two servers is as simple as using
>>>>>>>> t_relay_to("proto:serverip:**port") after you do
>>>>>>>> lookup("location") and no record is found.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Suppose I have three or more kamailio servers. If a call comes in
>>>>>>> and lookup() returns that no record was found, how do I know which server
>>>>>>> to forward to? Is that a case in which I should replicate the database?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You have to add an extra check for the case the call was coming
>>>>>>>> from the other server, not to forward back to it in case of no found again.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks for the tip, I hadn't thought of that.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Also, you should skip user authentication for calls from the other
>>>>>>>> server (not do authenticate twice). Another aspect to take care is chaining
>>>>>>>> rtpproxy, you have to use the flat for trusting the other server (r, iirc).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You can also replicate the registration, but again, it can add
>>>>>>>> troubles to the nat. Look at t_replicate() (in tm module).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>> Daniel
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
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