[SR-Users] $200 bounty

[David J]

Sorry Daniel. I didn't see your message until I replied.

Understood.

On to 3.3...
On Jun 20, 2012 6:27 PM, "David J" <david at styleflare.com> wrote:

> Dave.
>
> Understandably. But my point was missed if you think that anyone here is
> trying to monopolize on the list please do understand that they usually
> "contribute" to the project. Besides they are responsible for making
> kamailio what is today. All so you can benefit. To say that there rates are
> outrageous is an insult to the great software your going to use. You should
> look at the overall value that the software provides and calculate how much
> you saved by nit having to build it yourself for the last 10yrz yourself.
>
> Once you put it in to perspective its really a very good value to use a
> seasoned developer on the list.
>
> I am sure they can respect your budget but equally respect their time and
> contribution.
> On Jun 20, 2012 6:13 PM, "copycall" <dave at copycall.com> wrote:
>
>> david,
>>
>> invariably, this happens on most open source projects and lists.
>>
>> a few of developers begin to think all the roads lead through them.
>>
>> and, they are out today to protect their turf
>>
>> so, they start with the barber-shop membership, pseudo-licensing, and a
>> separate list: the gatekeeping begins.
>>
>> i have contacted some of the "developers" on the list over the last 18-24
>> months about other projects.
>>
>> their pricing was outrageous for a small service provider and the
>> specific project, other alternatives had to be found.
>>
>> i concluded they were looking for the "home run" client, an att or
>> verizon.
>>
>> it's the same today, a small innocuous job elicits the mocking,
>> compulsive rule citations, and in your case, a slighting of all the
>> kamailio users who are not on the developer's list.
>>
>> maybe you are right, maybe no one can do this job but a developer on the
>> list. obviously, if this is the case, money will not be exchanged.
>> however, not one developer has offered their services at any price. i will
>> welcome these proposals.
>>
>> maybe some users do not want to be on the developers list, or they are
>> not ready, or have the time at the moment. but, maybe they want to do a
>> small job to see where it leads, or for fun, or they need a few extra bucks.
>>
>> i don't mind the possible risk in giving someone a chance.
>>
>> regarding the pricing you mentioned, my job as a buyer is to get the best
>> value for my money. but, thanks for your price list.
>>
>> since several people have already offered their services, i think you are
>> a bit misinformed about the competitive marketplace.
>>
>> if your goal is to grow the number of service providers using kamailio,
>> you have employed an odd strategy to implement it.
>>
>> dave
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 2:20 PM, David <david at styleflare.com> wrote:
>>
>>>  To chime in here,
>>>
>>> On behalf of the professional developers on the list, it seems "a guy
>>> giving a try" may get you stated but someone with experience will get you
>>> there faster with a more predictable result.
>>>
>>> I would think the going rate today for an experienced kamailio developer
>>> is about $150/hr US. its possible someone in a developing country on odesk
>>> will try and charge less like $60 USD which is the equivalent of someone
>>> here charging $1500/hr, but they most probably dont have 8-10 years
>>> experience, and also a very high probability they don't contribute to the
>>> community. Its also more than likely they wont finish the project or get
>>> you much past whats available to you for FREE on the WIKI.
>>>
>>> You have to realize professionals charge professional rates, seeing that
>>> it was "Alex bashing", If you actually search the mailing list, Alex
>>> happens to answer many difficult questions for users free of charge. So if
>>> you think Alex is getting rich quick of this list, your obviously very
>>> fresh to the list.
>>>
>>> Your certainly welcome to post a more specific question on the list like
>>> how come my server only processes 1 cps...
>>>
>>> I am sure the community will be very eager to help.
>>>
>>> Good luck on your project, if you do happen to succeed please inform the
>>> list, we would be happy to welcome your star developer into the community.
>>>
>>> All the best.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 6/20/12 3:28 PM, copycall wrote:
>>>
>>> alex,
>>>
>>> if it offended you, then i apologize for telling you to "get a pair".
>>>
>>> well, i have received several offers to do what i am looking for, not
>>> all at my asking price, which you think is too low.
>>>
>>> maybe some kamailio users don't consider themselves developers, but are
>>> still interested in trying something new.
>>>
>>> i am willing to give someone an opportunity, including you.
>>>
>>> dave
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 12:12 PM, Fred Posner <fred at teamforrest.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Jun 20, 2012, at 2:40 PM, Alex Balashov wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > On 06/20/2012 02:38 PM, Fred Posner wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >> I know a great bakery that can offer dessert kamailio pricing.
>>>> >> Generally, $6/portion starting.
>>>> >
>>>> > What's the going rate for the Millenium Falcon cake these days?  :-)
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>>  They start at $250 and increase by size. =)
>>>>
>>>> Death Stars are much cheaper. =)
>>>>
>>>> With best regards,
>>>>
>>>> Fred
>>>> http://qxork.com
>>>>
>>>>
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