[Serusers] SIP Express Bundle - let's get started

[Mike Trest - Personal]

Jai,

I like this second thought you expressed.

When building from CentOS CD/DVD it is common to build servers first 
with Gnome as for DeskTop use.  After fully configured,  we always 
change them down to run level 3 for server mode use.  The extra 
programs on the hard disk are not usually an issue to most Enterprise IT folks.

If we expect the Enterprise-IT person to build the OS from distro, 
then we need to document
the required build details, then when we get our first script to 
examine it, we can survey
the landscape and see if all the right stuff is present.

If we expect to fine-tune a minimum image size, then we must do the 
2->3->2->3->
dance until we really shrink it down.   However, I feel that decision 
can be held
until we see a complete running SER  with all goodies that can be 
dropped in on top
of a known OS baseline.

Right after new year, I will build two CentOS-5.1 machines and put 
them on public IP for
examination and tinkering by all.  This should be helpful for 
developers to confirm
what is available in standard distro.

..mike..


At 12:48 PM 12/17/2007, Jai Rangi wrote:
>Also I was thinking what some one can do if I give him a machine 
>which has all the packages installed. Dont we need some good case 
>studies/example configurations which should be part of the project.
>
>
>-Jai
>
>On Dec 17, 2007 9:44 AM, Jai Rangi 
><<mailto:jprangi at gmail.com>jprangi at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>1) Determine what needs to be on the basic CentOS 5 install for
>everything to work properly (including iptables and such since we should
>assume security is an important factor).
>2) Determine what's left that needs to be installed that doesn't come
>with the distro for any base dependencies.
>3) Determine the order in which the apps need to be installed (for the
>post-proc. script).
>
>This sounds good approach. The only thing I see is that be might be 
>going 2->3->2->3->... few times before we get the final version of 
>2. Ofcourse this assumes that all the dependencies should be the 
>default/latest versions of packages from CentOS CD.
>
>-Jai
>
>
>
>On Dec 17, 2007 6:16 AM, SIP <<mailto:sip at arcdiv.com>sip at arcdiv.com> wrote:
>Okay... starting with a base image of CentOS 5 (which, I believe,
>includes MySQL 5.0.? Don't recall which version... perhaps someone can
>fill in there), what are the initial things that would need to be
>installed for base-level dependencies (things not already on the machine
>and ready to go).
>
>Then, we should start a list of what needs to be installed based on the
>order in which it should be installed (for the post-processing script)
>for the basic required stuff.
>
>Also, for any optional packages that will be installed, we'll need a
>list of dependencies.
>
>I think that's a logical next step assuming the CentOS machine has been
>installed (which is NOT an assumption we should overlook, as we'll need
>to determine what portions of the CentOS base machine SHOULD and should
>NOT be installed (i.e. do we really need print services, games, and an X
>environment in our base install, etc, etc)).
>
>SO....  three steps really.
>
>1) Determine what needs to be on the basic CentOS 5 install for
>everything to work properly (including iptables and such since we should
>assume security is an important factor).
>2) Determine what's left that needs to be installed that doesn't come
>with the distro for any base dependencies.
>3) Determine the order in which the apps need to be installed (for the
>post-proc. script).
>
>
>
>I'm just throwing out ideas here. Feel free to tell me I'm going about
>this the wrong way.
>
>N.
>
>
>Greger V. Teigre wrote:
> > :-) we only need to get this thing together then...
> > g-)
> >
> > ram wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> On Dec 16, 2007 1:33 PM, Greger V. Teigre < 
> <mailto:greger at teigre.com>greger at teigre.com
> >> <mailto:greger at teigre.com>> wrote:
> >>
> >>     Using kickstart sounds good to me.  I think we should keep
> >>     separate the different steps:
> >>     1. Create a base image of the OS
> >>     2. Install the <http://iptel.org>iptel.org < 
> http://iptel.org/> apps and dependencies
> >>     3. Do local configurations
> >>     4. Create deployable virtual machine
> >>
> >>     If each of these steps are isolated, different people can be
> >>     responsible for the different steps.
> >>
> >>     I have reorganized the project page into sections and
> >>     incorporated lots of input from Jeremy at
> >>     <http://iptel.org/bundle/project>http://iptel.org/bundle/project
> >>     We now need to create a project plan, split into
> >>     responsibilities, and take some key decisions.
> >>     I think one key decision that we have already converged on is:
> >>     for first version use CentOS5 and create vmware appliance.
> >>     g-)
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> I have Server ready with Centos5
> >>
> >> let me know any test need to be done
> >>
> >> ram
> >>
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