[Serusers] Re: [Users] rfc3264 and nathelper module

Tue Nov 29 14:24:09 CET 2005

You find the key SIGNALING.
if you had read my mails  you would have understood
that my problem is  SIGNALING between ser and
asterisk.

Harry

--- sip <sip at arcdiv.com> a écrit :

> Ah... but there you missed a KEY bit.
> 
> "The SIP Express Router scales from SOHOs to large,
> international enterprises.
> Even a single installation on a common PC is able to
> serve VoIP signaling of
> any world's enterprise."
> 
> The key word there is SIGNALING. SER handles the
> SIGNALING portion of a PBX
> component. Not the media. This allows individual UAs
> or other media servers to
> handle the media stream portions and you can replace
> a traditional hardware
> PSTN/PRI PBX box -- hence the term 'traditional
> PBX.' 
> 
> N.
> 
> On Tue, 29 Nov 2005 14:13:30 +0100 (CET), harry
> gaillac wrote
> >
>
http://www.iptel.org/ser/doc/seruser/seruser.html#AEN124
> > 
> > 1.4.3. PBX Replacement
> > 
> > Replacing a traditional PBX in an enterprise can
> > achieve reasonable savings. Enterprises can deploy
> a
> > single infrastructure for both voice and data and
> > bridge distant locations over the Internet.
> > Additionally, they can benefit of integration of
> voice
> > and data.
> > 
> > The SIP Express Router scales from SOHOs to large,
> > international enterprises. Even a single
> installation
> > on a common PC is able to serve VoIP signaling of
> any
> > world's enterprise. Its policy-based routing
> language
> > makes implementation of numbering plans of
> companies
> > spread across the world very easy. ACL features
> allow
> > for protection of PSTN gateway from unauthorized
> > callers.
> > 
> > SIP Express Router's support for programmable
> routing
> > and accounting efficiently allows for
> implementation
> > of such a scenario.
> > 
> > Harry
> > --- sip <sip at arcdiv.com> a écrit :
> > 
> > > On Tue, 29 Nov 2005 12:09:09 +0100 (CET), harry
> > > gaillac wrote
> > > > SER is more than a proxy .
> > > > Read the ser 's admin guide.
> > > 
> > > All right. I'll bite. 
> > > 
> > > " Based on the latest standards, the SIP Express
> > > Router (SER) includes support
> > > for registrar, proxy and redirect mode. Further
> it
> > > acts as an application
> > > server with support for instant messaging and
> > > presence including a 2G/SMS and
> > > Jabber gateway, a call control policy language,
> call
> > > number translation,
> > > private dial plans and accounting, ENUM,
> > > authorization and authentication
> > > (AAA) services. SER runs on Sun/Solaris,
> PC/Linux,
> > > PC/BSD, IPAQ/Linux
> > > platforms and supports both IPv4 and IPv6.
> Hosting
> > > multiple domains and
> > > database redundancy is supported."
> > > 
> > > Now... somewhere in there, you read "SER is more
> > > than a proxy and should be
> > > able to do anything I want it to... for free...
> and
> > > support should be free as
> > > well."   I'm not sure WHERE you read that, but
> > > perhaps you can point it out to
> > > me. 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Anyway I ask for advice how to use ser with
> > > asterisk .
> > > > Harry
> > > 
> > > Do you bother the Asterisk people as much as you
> > > bother everyone else?
> > > 
> > > I'm not a SER expert, Harry. Hell, I'm not an
> expert
> > > at ANYthing, but somehow
> > > I've managed on my own and without pestering the
> > > Asterisk or SER lists daily
> > > to implement a commercial solution using a
> mixture
> > > of both SER and Asterisk
> > > without any real hitches so far. Now, it may not
> be
> > > the most ELEGANT solution
> > > imaginable, but it works and works well. 
> > > 
> > > Is it your lack of English skill that's keeping
> you
> > > from being able to
> > > research a solution? Is it your lack of systems
> > > skills? Perhaps it's your lack
> > > of basic understanding of the technologies
> involved
> > > (which may again lead back
> > > to your lack of English skill).  It's certainly
> not
> > > that the information isn't
> > >  available and can't be discovered with some
> careful
> > > effort. 
> > > 
> > > Perhaps if it's just the language problem, you
> could
> > > find a friend with better
> > > skills who could help... or you could just
> > > communicate in your native language
> > > and find someone who might be able to understand
> > > better what sort of problems
> > > you're up against. 
> > > 
> > > From your statements here, it's pretty clear
> that
> > > you're not really even
> > > INTERESTED in figuring this out on your own.
> You'd
> > > rather just ask other
> > > people to do it for you. And when no one has
> time or
> > > inclination to help,
> > > you'd rather just demand that they drop what
> they're
> > > doing and help you. 
> > > That's so NOT the way to solicit assistance. No
> one
> > > wants to help a petulant,
> > > whining fellow who tries to bully them or guilt
> them
> > > into helping out. 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Okay... let's try this one FINAL time. 
> > > 
> > > SER DOES NOT CONTROL THE MEDIA STREAM FOR VOIP
> > > CONVERSATIONS. 
> > > 
> > > If you are having problems with MOH, or
> reinvites
> > > not working properly through
> > > asterisk for the purpose of reducing media
> stream
> > > bandwidth, or other PBX
> > > functions, this IS NOT A SER ISSUE. Ask an
> Asterisk
> > > guru. 
> > > 
> > > And heaven help them if they say they don't know
> > > what you're talking about. 
> > > 
> > > N.
> > >
> > 
> > 	
> > 
> > 	
> > 		
> >
>
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