[Serusers] Re: More Queries regarding SIP IM

Klaus Darilion klaus.mailinglists at pernau.at
Tue Jul 26 14:40:10 CEST 2005


It depends on the UAS. Do you use a certain UAS or are you developing one?

A bad, simple, dumb UAS will reject the second call/message.

An good, intelligent, smart UAS can deal with multiple calls and 
multiple IM implementations. Thus, it will accept the MESSAGE, 
regardless if it is session-model (INVITE-MESSAGE-MESSAGE-BYE) or 
page-model (MESSAGE).

Thus, there is no right or wrong. It depends on how smart the UAS is, 
and which IM models are supported by the UAS. Nevertheless, this is a 
plain end-to-end problem and does not involve the SIP proxy.

regards,
klaus

Abhijit A.Mahajani wrote:
> Hi!
> Please see if my problem statement is clear from following or not?
> 
> Consider Windows Msgr specific case first:
> UAC 1 has established a voice call with UAS through SIP Proxy.
> UAC1---INVITE------>SIP Proxy------>UAS
> SDP=Audio/Video
> 
> Now UAC1 wants to send IM to UAS
> UAC1---MESSAGE------>SIP Proxy----->UAS
> 
> My Question is Now what should UAS do?
> When seen in ethereal, we see INVITE again from UAC1 with SDP=x-ms-message.
> If UAS supports SINGLE INVITE then, It ignores these INVITE  and IM is not
> processed.
> Should UAS process the seocnd INVITE also?
> 
> 
> Consider a case where Voice call is established other than Windows Msgr.
> 
> UAC1-----INVITE----->SIP proxy---->UAS
> 
> some other UAC e.g. UAC2 wnats to send IM to UAS (Not from Windows msgr)
> UAC2-----MESSAGE--->SIP Proxy---->UAS
> then Now this SIP IM is sent from Other UAC (Not from Windows msgr).Which
> does not send INVITE with SDP=x-ms-message
> It simply sends SIP MESSAGE.
> Now here my question is Will UAS process this SIP MESSAGE?
> Because Both Call ids are different .
> 
> Thanks and Regards.
> Abhijit
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Klaus Darilion" <klaus.mailinglists at pernau.at>
> To: "Klaus Darilion" <klaus.mailinglists at pernau.at>
> Cc: "Abhijit A.Mahajani" <abhijit_m at citilindia.com>; "ser users"
> <serusers at lists.iptel.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 3:43 PM
> Subject: Re: [Serusers] Queries regarding SIP IM
> 
> 
> 
>>Klaus Darilion wrote:
>>
>>>Hi!
>>>
>>>1. Please always Cc: to the mailing list - others might also be
>>>interested in this topic and may help you.
>>
>>You did. Sorry, my mistake.
>>
>>klaus
> 
> 
> 




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