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[Greger V. Teigre]

Daniel,
I think you are knocking down open doors here. ;-) We fully agree with you, 
except that while we have a beta document we feel a safety in being able to 
contact EVERYBODY.  We feel a moral responsibility here not to make problems 
for people... (And BTW, that moral responsibility also includes not using 
the mailing list outside ONsip.org purposes)
    As for a mailing list, we will NOT confuse people and create another 
mailing list, serusers is the SER community mailing list. :-)  But we hope 
the document will be of such value to subscribers of serusers that it is a 
natural place for announcements.
g-)

Daniel-Constantin Mierla wrote:
> So if I subscribe I will get another source of spam?!?! ;-) As I said,
> just for reading I do not find a good reason to require registration
> (my opinion), a mailing list where to subscribe if you want to be
> noticed when something has been added/changed is a viable alternative
> instead of spaming all subscribers.
>
> Besides that, having a bigger community reading the documents, the
> bugs will be hunted quicker. If someone feels like having something
> to post, then he will subscribe and send the contribution.
>
> Daniel
>
> On 04/01/05 16:07, Greger V. Teigre wrote:
>
>> I just want to add an example: In the NAT config files we recently
>> released, we discovered a serious error. After it was corrected we
>> were able to send an email to all registered users with access to the
>> document and the config files to notify them about the error. Several
>> users sent us replies with a thank you, as they had just been
>> struggling with the error.
>>
>>    Of course, we don't want these things to happen, but SER is very
>> complex and I don't believe it's possible to undertake a project like
>> this Getting Started document with config files without glitches.
>> Sorry that you find it annoying, but that's the way it gonna be until
>> it's proven ;-)
>>
>> Regards,
>> Greger
>>
>>
>> Java Rockx wrote:
>>
>>> I agree. But that said, our documentation is still 100% beta drafts.
>>> We believe they are correct, but until the user community and/or
>>> core team gives feedback and blesses our work and correct and
>>> proper, we prefer to retain a little control.
>>>
>>> We fully intend to give anonymous read access once everything is
>>> finished.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Paul
>>>
>>> On Apr 1, 2005 8:46 AM, Daniel-Constantin Mierla
>>> <Daniel-Constantin.Mierla at fokus.fraunhofer.de> wrote:
>>>
>>>> The question is "why is it required to register just to read the
>>>> documentation?" . I think everybody got the point about write or
>>>> moderator permissions, but why for reading?
>>>>
>>>> Your comparison with php.net is good, but there is no registration
>>>> required for reading ... and I think that approach is better.
>>>>
>>>> Daniel
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 04/01/05 15:11, Java Rockx wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> That's a great question Steve. This has been asked before. Perhaps
>>>>> this posting will help convey our reasons for doing what we've
>>>>> done. http://lists.iptel.org/pipermail/serusers/2005-March/016478.html
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Paul
>>>>>
>>>>> On Apr 1, 2005 7:28 AM, Steve Blair <blairs at isc.upenn.edu> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Paul:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Just out of curiousity why do you require registration to this
>>>>>> site?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> _Steve
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Java Rockx wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Welcome Shoaib!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You can find a "Getting Started" guide at http://www.onsip.org/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>> Paul
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Apr 1, 2005 2:53 AM, Shoaib Muhammad Siddiqui
>>>>>>> <shoaib_muhammad_siddiqui at hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I am just new to SER n the mailin list. I ned to configure my
>>>>>>>> SER but I have failed to find the SER mysql Module plus all the
>>>>>>>> other modules….
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Can anyone plz help me from where can I download these modules?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanx
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> S h o a i b
>>>>>>>>
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