AW: [Serusers] MSN ...

[Harry Behrens]

> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: 'Jan Janak' [mailto:jan at iptel.org] 
> Gesendet: Montag, 16. Februar 2004 12:33
> An: Harry Behrens
> Cc: 'Atle Samuelsen'; serusers at lists.iptel.org
> Betreff: Re: [Serusers] MSN ...
> 
> 
> Why would anyone do so ? Newer versions are incompatible with 
> other UAs anyway.
> 

Because interoperability with MS is an important issue, that`s why.
Whether they are compatible to RFCXXXX is secondary, MS-compatible is -
whether one likes it or not - just as important as standard-compliance.

And like Atle says, people have done it before in the IM world - out of
exactly those reasons.

In case anybody is interested in actually doing this, we could probably
contribute to some degree. We always have requests for
precisely this interoperability - as has this mailing list.

One has to be pragmatic in designing a product - rather than just being
"right",

	Harry

>   Jan.
> 
> On 16-02 12:33, Harry Behrens wrote:
> > what would prevent anyone to just reverse-engineer the MS 
> protocol and 
> > XML-language? Can't be too hard, can it?
> > Messenger can be seen as a black box with SIP/SDP coming in 
> and out. And
> > if you can sniff incoming and outgoing of a black box, you 
> can always
> > reverse-engineer it, can't you?
> > 
> > 	-h
> > 
> > 
> > > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> > > Von: serusers-bounces at lists.iptel.org
> > > [mailto:serusers-bounces at lists.iptel.org] Im Auftrag von Jan Janak
> > > Gesendet: Montag, 16. Februar 2004 11:53
> > > An: Atle Samuelsen
> > > Cc: serusers at lists.iptel.org
> > > Betreff: Re: [Serusers] MSN ...
> > > 
> > > 
> > > I am afraid that this will work properly only if the other
> > > side uses MSN messenger as well.
> > > 
> > >   Jan.
> > > 
> > > On 14-02 02:18, Atle Samuelsen wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > Hey guys, just wonderd if anybody has gotten the buddylist
> > > in MSN to
> > > > work ? so you can see who's online.. I can send messages
> > > from the web
> > > > to the MSN client.. and it pups up, but I cant get the
> > > who's online to
> > > > work.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > + Atle
> > > > 
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