[Serusers] Rewriting URI in the Contact field
Greg Fausak
greg at august.net
Fri Jan 10 15:27:46 CET 2003
What is this device? Where can I get one? What does it cost?
Thanks :-)
---greg
> -----Original Message-----
> From: serusers-admin at lists.iptel.org
> [mailto:serusers-admin at lists.iptel.org] On Behalf Of Maxim Sobolev
> Sent: Friday, January 10, 2003 8:15 AM
> To: Jiri Kuthan
> Cc: serusers at lists.iptel.org; kapitan at portaone.com
> Subject: Re: [Serusers] Rewriting URI in the Contact field
>
>
> Yes, I know - we have studied all those methods in details. Our
> method of choice is symmetric signalling/symmetric media (aka COMEDIA)
> due to the following reasons:
>
> 1. Things should work without modifying or reconfiguring existing
> user's infrastructure (NATs) and should be compatible with all
> widely-used NATs.
>
> 2. We are bound to ata186 as UA. It is compatible with this method.
> Support for other UAs isn't required.
>
> 3. The calls will be terminated to Cisco GWs, while COMEDIA support
> was recently added into Cisco IOS, so that theoretically the only
> thing we need is to add received/rport support into proxy/registrar
> and update IOS at termination points.
>
> 4. No media relay is allowed, because this will create excessive
> bandwith load in a single point.
>
> 5. COMEDIA support is likely to become part of the standard, so that
> our investments into development are protected.
>
> -Maxim
>
> On Fri, Jan 10, 2003 at 02:26:07PM +0100, Jiri Kuthan wrote:
> > There is actually a plenty of options how to traverse NATs.
> > Sadly, none of them works in all possible scenarios.
> >
> > a) STUN -- some phones (kphone for linux, snom hardphones)
> > have the ability to "fool" NATs to accomplish traversal
> > using the STUN protocols; particularly good if you cannot
> > manipulate the NAT
> > b) geek tweaks -- you have a configurable NAT and configurable
> > phones (there are some of both of them). you configure static
> > port forwarding in the NAT and phones to advertise the
> > public address in contacts and elsewhere
> > c) ALG -- use a SIP-aware NAT such as PIX or Intertex
> > d) UPnP -- takes UPnP enables phones (snom is) and NATs
> > e) SIP/media relay -- that's a too ugly story
> >
> > What to choose best depends on your network setting -- can you
> > tweak the NAT, can you afford replacing it with a SIP-enabled
> > one, are the phones you are using configurable or do they use
> > STUN, do you have a server on the public or private NAT side
> > or on each of them, etc.
> >
> > I remember someone shared with us he was using ser in his
> > network to do the translation of SIP addresses on behalf
> > ot the phones. The ser script was configured to statically
> > rewrite private IP addresses to the public address using
> > replace/textops.
> >
> > -Jiri
> >
> > At 01:32 PM 1/10/2003, Maxim Sobolev wrote:
> > >Folks,
> > >
> > >I need an advise on how to better implement one feature,
> which isn't
> > >currently present in SER. We need to allow UAs behind NAT properly
> > >register with the registrar - by "properly" I mean that
> host:port portion
> > >of URI in Contact field should not be used, but host:port
> the request
> > >came from should be used instead. By definition we know
> that those UAs
> > >will support symmetric SIP signalling, so that this scheme
> will work just
> > >fine.
> > >
> > >In my opinion there are two ways to do it: either add new
> rewritecontact*
> > >family of functions similar to rewritehost ones. or add a
> new flag for
> > >the save() function. This is where I need your help -
> which implementation
> > >looks better for you (or maybe you have even some better
> idea), since
> > >we are really interested in inclusion of our changes into
> the mainline to
> > >reduce our local hacks.
> > >
> > >Regards,
> > >
> > >Maxim
> > >
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> > --
> > Jiri Kuthan http://iptel.org/~jiri/
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