[Serusers] symmetric nat/ broadband routers

Ricardo Villa ricvil at epm.net.co
Thu Dec 4 21:33:16 CET 2003


Yes...we tried down to about 10 seconds.  No good though.  I think the other
router was a D-Link 604.  It failed too.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Andrei Pelinescu-Onciul" <pelinescu-onciul at fokus.fraunhofer.de>
To: "Ricardo Villa" <ricvil at epm.net.co>
Cc: "Klaus Darilion" <darilion at ict.tuwien.ac.at>; "Hans Eriksson"
<hansa at mac.com>; <serusers at lists.iptel.org>
Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 3:27 PM
Subject: Re: [Serusers] symmetric nat/ broadband routers


> On Dec 04, 2003 at 15:22, Ricardo Villa <ricvil at epm.net.co> wrote:
> > On our lab we have a RH7.3 box with iptables firewall and NAT.  When we
were
> > initially testing the nathelper module we found out that external pings
did
> > NOT keep the sessions alive on this box.  Only pings going from inside
> > towards the internet.  At that point we decided to simply rely on the
> > ability of devices like the ATA186 and GS phones to send a SIP Dummy
packet
> > from behind the NAT in order to keep the sessions alive.  So far this
> > approach has worked 100%.  It is possible that the Linux box just needed
> > some tweaking, but we needed a solution that worked seamlessly with all
> > customers.
> >
> > I belive we also tested another common broadband home router and it
behaved
> > the same way.
>
> Did you try with smaller ping times?
> My freebsd nat box work perfectly with nat ping interval set to 30s.
> natping should keep the bindings alive also on any linux based nat (just
> make sure the nat ping interval is greater then the defautl udp binding
> expire time).
>
>
> Andrei
>
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