[Devel] RE: [Users] OpenSER - one year old

Sumeet Gupta skg1010 at hotmail.com
Thu Jun 15 23:43:05 CEST 2006


Why are we wasting our time replying to this...

Unless your next message is an offering of this so called "well written" 
documentation or a donation of funds, move on to some other piece of 
software that meets your needs.

-Sumeet


>From: "Douglas Garstang" <dgarstang at oneeighty.com>
>To: "Tavis P" <tavis.lists at galaxytelecom.net>,<devel at openser.org>
>CC: users at openser.org
>Subject: RE: [Devel] RE: [Users] OpenSER - one year old
>Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 15:35:37 -0600
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Tavis P [mailto:tavis.lists at galaxytelecom.net]
> > Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2006 3:33 PM
> > To: devel at openser.org
> > Cc: users at openser.org
> > Subject: Re: [Devel] RE: [Users] OpenSER - one year old
> >
> >
> > Douglas Garstang wrote:
> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> From: Tavis P [mailto:tavis.lists at galaxytelecom.net]
> > >> Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2006 3:04 PM
> > >> Cc: devel at openser.org; users at openser.org
> > >> Subject: Re: [Devel] RE: [Users] OpenSER - one year old
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Juha Heinanen wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> Douglas Garstang writes:
> > >>>
> > >>>  > My comments are constructive. I've constructively
> > stated several
> > >>>  > times that the documentation is very bad. Each time I've
> > >>>
> > >> made this
> > >>
> > >>>  > constructive comment, I've been attacked. In my previous
> > >>>
> > >> post, I made
> > >>
> > >>>  > another constructive comment. I said that maybe the reason the
> > >>>  > documentation is so bad is that the project isn't that old.
> > >>>
> > >>> rather that complaining, learn to read the relevant pieces
> > >>>
> > >> of code and
> > >>
> > >>> write better documentation.
> > >>>
> > >>> -- juha
> > >>>
> > >>> _______________________________________________
> > >>> Devel mailing list
> > >>> Devel at openser.org
> > >>> http://openser.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/devel
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >> I find it interesting that you would characterize your
> > statements as
> > >> "constructive" and the responses you've received as "attacks"
> > >>
> > >> I believe this may be one of the central issues
> > >>
> > >
> > > Why do you consider my opinion that the documentation is
> > bad, and that it should be maintained by the developers interesting?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > Its not your opinion on the documentation that i find interesting, its
> > how you characterize your dislike for the documentation (and repeated
> > expression of it)
> >
> >
> > In my opinion, if you are able to use an application you are able to
> > document how you use it.
> > I am not a C developer however i have contributed to the
> > documentation,
> > and i believe it is with this type of action that Open Source
> > communities become strong (contribution).
> > Having someone constantly express what they don't like about
> > the project
> > yet do little else to effect change in it serves no positive or
> > productive purpose
> >
> > OpenSER is an excellent application and i am proud to be a part of its
> > community.  A community that responds to impatience and contempt with
> > patience and wisdom
> > Please help us keep this community healthy because in the end it
> > benefits us all (in more ways that i can count)
> >
> > Demanding that others solve perceived issues is generally not a good
> > approach (unless you are dealing with a commercial entity and has a
> > professional responsibility to you)
>
>Sorry, but I disagree with you. I'm fed up with relying on documentation 
>that's badly written or wrong, because the person who wrote it made 
>assumptions about what they thought they knew... because they in turn 
>relied upon someone else who had made the same mistakes. The reason the 
>chain of events got started in the first place was because people played 
>around, experimated, tinkered, etc, and came to incorrect conclusions.
>
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