[Kamailio-Users] stun/outbound draft...

[Juha Heinanen]

Aymeric Moizard writes:

 > If you have a 100% working trick, I'll be interested to learn it! Very
 > interested!

no, i don't have 100% working trick, but normal means cover 90+% of the
cases.  trying to avoid needless use of rtp proxy for the remainder is
not worth of the extreme complexity that comes with ice.

 > Well, I'm not saying it's not complicated... I fully agree there. But
 > still this is the best (& only?) way to optimize the SIP udp media
 > path.

as i said in above, kamailio's nat tools work well enough so that the
added complexity of ice cannot be justified.

 > Until ICE come, there will never be any success for the internet part of
 > SIP: the only reliable (optimized) calls today are the SIP to PSTN calls
 > and that is very very sad and unusefull.

i don't understand what you try to say in above.  sip works fine over
the internet today.

 > I want ICE to be implemented, no matter the effort. Else, I think there is
 > no value in SIP or VoIP except for commercial usage.

i don't agree with you regarding the value statement and you are welcome
to try to implement ice.  i'm just saying that it provides too little
value for me taking into account its complexity and lack of
implementations in UAs.

-- juha