[Kamailio-Users] As a board member

[Bogdan-Andrei Iancu]

Hi David,

I do not have anything with any body - as stated in the original email, 
my main concern is the project itself and how it is managed - based on 
how things are going (board discussions), I see no future with the 
current way of managing the project.

not sure what poisoned back-stage rumours you heard, but I'm aware that 
truth is not convenient for all of us and dust in the eyes is a simply 
way to cover it.

Regards,
Bogdan

David Villasmil wrote:
> In any case, both Bodgan and Daniel SHOULD understand that this 
> project's issues are more important than their own personals issues. 
> They should behave like the prefessionals they are and overcome their 
> private issues when talking project's issues.
>
> On Fri, Aug 8, 2008 at 12:34 PM, Andreas Granig <agranig at sipwise.com 
> <mailto:agranig at sipwise.com>> wrote:
>
>     David,
>
>     And that's exactly the point. That's why the board is there to
>     decide on such issues, in my opinion.
>
>     But... Bogdan refused to comply with this decision (for whatever
>     reason), and now Adrian accuses Henning to enforce things and to
>     abuse his board position (or at least that's what one can read
>     from the mailing lists). So there's something really wrong with
>     the board, i guess.
>
>     Andreas
>
>     David Villasmil wrote:
>
>         Andreas,
>
>             Just have a good look at this:
>
>            
>         http://lists.kamailio.org/pipermail/devel/2008-June/014204.html
>         it then moves here:
>            
>         http://lists.kamailio.org/pipermail/devel/2008-June/014372.html
>         then here:
>            
>         http://lists.kamailio.org/pipermail/devel/2008-June/014122.html
>         then here:
>            
>         http://lists.kamailio.org/pipermail/devel/2008-June/014456.html
>            
>         I'd say both sides had their reasons, but one side never gave
>         any explanation for why they were insisting on something that
>         maybe could've been solve without much hassle. But both sides
>         got too heated and this is the result of that -and I must say,
>         a little selffish on both sides-
>
>         I'm really hoping both sides see their errors here, can work
>         toghether again and do what we're all here to do, make the
>         project move forward.
>
>         IMO, although it seems like Bodgan has founded reasons to be
>         upset, in the end the local_route made its way into the
>         release, even if it made it as an "experimental feature".
>
>
>         Have a good one all,
>
>         David.
>
>         P.S.: "Can't we all just get along?" hehe, just kidding
>
>
>         That thread is very illustrative.
>
>         On Fri, Aug 8, 2008 at 11:15 AM, Andreas Granig
>         <agranig at sipwise.com <mailto:agranig at sipwise.com>
>         <mailto:agranig at sipwise.com <mailto:agranig at sipwise.com>>> wrote:
>
>            Guys,
>
>            I don't have any insights in what's going on on the board,
>         but isn't the
>            board supposed to prevent that one single guy can make
>         decisions which
>            influence the overall project like that?
>
>            Aren't you, Adrian, as a board member, supposed to stand up
>         and take
>            your chance to speak out loud that something is going THAT
>         wrong? And if
>            you did, and your voice wasn't heard due to this high S/N
>         ratio because
>            of some discussions about some features or whatever, why
>         didn't anybody
>            else on the board complain?
>
>            I'm just a little bit suspicious about one person pointing
>         fingers at
>            somebody else on the board, when there are (supposed to be)
>         a couple of
>            other parties who should represent the project, who didn't
>         really
>            complain or didn't stand up by now to explain the whole
>         situation that
>            is going on on the board?
>
>            Bogdan complained about being overruled by the board in
>         different kind
>            of things (from a technical and from a management point of
>         view), and
>            well, that happens in a project being lead by a couple of
>         parties. But
>            what I really miss is the other side of the story, like why the
>            decisions where made as they were made. And the fact, that
>         another board
>            member puts down his vote like that (demanding that another
>         board member
>            quits) is not a sign of democracy. So maybe something is
>         really going
>            wrong on the board?
>
>            Just my thoughts?
>            Andreas
>
>            Adrian Georgescu wrote:
>             > Hello,
>             >
>             > Because of sheer incompetence and abuse conduct of one
>         of the
>            recently
>             > adopted board members I decided to put my activities as
>         a management
>             > board member of OpenSER/Kamailio project on hold.
>             >
>             > I will be able to resume my activities after the
>         voluntary leave of
>             > Henning Westerholt.
>             >
>             > For those who do not know who I am, I was involved with
>         OpenSER from
>             > Day 0 of its inception.
>             >
>             > Kind regards,
>             > Adrian
>             >
>             >
>