[Users] No answer when my openser 1.2.0 make a call to asterisk

Bogdan-Andrei Iancu bogdan at voice-system.ro
Thu May 17 11:34:42 CEST 2007


Hi Charles,

as the ngrep shows, the request is sent to the address where the 
asterisk should be present - if the asterisk is really listening on the 
correct IP and port, try to use ngrep also on the target machine to see 
if the msg arrives. also check for ip rules / firewalls. Use netstat to 
se if asterisk is really listening on the port you expect.

regards,
bogdan

Charles Wang wrote:
> Hi all,
>  
> I try to make a call from my Openser 1.2.0 (SIP Proxy) to the asterisk 
> in different machine.
> I use my asterisk as a trunking gateway.
>  
> I can make a call from my openser to some trunking gateway such as my 
> cisco 5300 or welltech 5250.
> In the same method, I try to make a call to asterisk ( sip listen on 
> udp 5060 )
>  
> I use ngrep on my asterisk machine and list as below.
> But I can't find any sip debug in my asterisk CLI.
>  
> In the message on my openser, I can see as below:
> openser[16801]: route[11] Base Outbound - M=INVITE 
> RURI=sip:02123456789 at asterisk.ip.addr:5060;transport=udp 
> F=sip:101 at openser.domain.name <mailto:sip:101 at openser.domain.name> T= 
> sip:00862123456789 at openser.domain.name 
> <mailto:sip:00862123456789 at openser.domain.name> IP=61.217.xxx.xxx 
> ID=25C0CC42-016D-4FEC-9B60-A0D1076A8816 at 192.168.11.9 
> <mailto:ID=25C0CC42-016D-4FEC-9B60-A0D1076A8816 at 192.168.11.9>
>  
> But the To URI is still 00862123456789 at openser.domain.name 
> <mailto:00862123456789 at openser.domain.name> not 
> 02123456789 at asterisk.ip.addr <mailto:02123456789 at asterisk.ip.addr>.
> Is it correct?
>  
> Does anybody kind to help me to solve it or give me some tips please?
>  
>  
> Best regards,
> Charles
>  
> ##################### message on my Openser 
> #################################
> openser[16802]: New request - M=INVITE 
> RURI=sip:00862123456789 at openser.domain.name 
> <mailto:sip:00862123456789 at openser.domain.name> 
> F=sip:101 at openser.domain.name <mailto:sip:101 at openser.domain.name> 
> T=sip:00862123456789 at openser.domain.name 
> <mailto:sip:00862123456789 at openser.domain.name> IP=61.217.xxx.xxx 
> ID=25C0CC42-016D-4FEC-9B60-A0D1076A8816 at 192.168.11.9 
> <mailto:ID=25C0CC42-016D-4FEC-9B60-A0D1076A8816 at 192.168.11.9>
> openser[16802]: route[12] Base Route Invite - M=INVITE 
> RURI=sip:00862123456789 at openser.domain.name 
> <mailto:sip:00862123456789 at openser.domain.name> 
> F=sip:101 at openser.domain.name <mailto:sip:101 at openser.domain.name> 
> T=sip:00862123456789 at openser.domain.name 
> <mailto:sip:00862123456789 at openser.domain.name> IP=61.217.xxx.xxx 
> ID=25C0CC42-016D-4FEC-9B60-A0D1076A8816 at 192.168.11.9 
> <mailto:ID=25C0CC42-016D-4FEC-9B60-A0D1076A8816 at 192.168.11.9>
> openser[16802]: Proxy authentication failed - M=INVITE 
> RURI=sip:00862123456789 at openser.domain.name 
> <mailto:sip:00862123456789 at openser.domain.name> 
> F=sip:101 at openser.domain.name <mailto:sip:101 at openser.domain.name> 
> T=sip:00862123456789 at openser.domain.name 
> <mailto:sip:00862123456789 at openser.domain.name> IP=61.217.xxx.xxx 
> ID=25C0CC42-016D-4FEC-9B60-A0D1076A8816 at 192.168.11.9 
> <mailto:ID=25C0CC42-016D-4FEC-9B60-A0D1076A8816 at 192.168.11.9>
> openser[16801]: New request - M=INVITE 
> RURI=sip:00862123456789 at openser.domain.name 
> <mailto:sip:00862123456789 at openser.domain.name> 
> F=sip:101 at openser.domain.name <mailto:sip:101 at openser.domain.name> 
> T=sip:00862123456789 at openser.domain.name 
> <mailto:sip:00862123456789 at openser.domain.name> IP=61.217.xxx.xxx 
> ID=25C0CC42-016D-4FEC-9B60-A0D1076A8816 at 192.168.11.9 
> <mailto:ID=25C0CC42-016D-4FEC-9B60-A0D1076A8816 at 192.168.11.9>
> openser[16801]: route[12] Base Route Invite - M=INVITE 
> RURI=sip:00862123456789 at openser.domain.name 
> <mailto:sip:00862123456789 at openser.domain.name> 
> F=sip:101 at openser.domain.name <mailto:sip:101 at openser.domain.name> 
> T=sip:00862123456789 at openser.domain.name 
> <mailto:sip:00862123456789 at openser.domain.name> IP=61.217.xxx.xxx 
> ID=25C0CC42-016D-4FEC-9B60-A0D1076A8816 at 192.168.11.9 
> <mailto:ID=25C0CC42-016D-4FEC-9B60-A0D1076A8816 at 192.168.11.9>
> openser[16801]: route[3] Usr Preferences Caller - M=INVITE 
> RURI=sip:00862123456789 at openser.domain.name 
> <mailto:sip:00862123456789 at openser.domain.name> 
> F=sip:101 at openser.domain.name <mailto:sip:101 at openser.domain.name> 
> T=sip:00862123456789 at openser.domain.name 
> <mailto:sip:00862123456789 at openser.domain.name> IP=61.217.xxx.xxx 
> ID=25C0CC42-016D-4FEC-9B60-A0D1076A8816 at 192.168.11.9 
> <mailto:ID=25C0CC42-016D-4FEC-9B60-A0D1076A8816 at 192.168.11.9>
> openser[16801]: route[1] Clear Usr Preferences Caller - M=INVITE 
> RURI=sip:00862123456789 at openser.domain.name 
> <mailto:sip:00862123456789 at openser.domain.name> F= 
> sip:101 at openser.domain.name <mailto:sip:101 at openser.domain.name> 
> T=sip:00862123456789 at openser.domain.name 
> <mailto:sip:00862123456789 at openser.domain.name> IP=61.217.xxx.xxx 
> ID=25C0CC42-016D-4FEC-9B60-A0D1076A8816 at 192.168.11.9 
> <mailto:ID=25C0CC42-016D-4FEC-9B60-A0D1076A8816 at 192.168.11.9>
> openser[16801]: Clear caller preferences - M=INVITE 
> RURI=sip:00862123456789 at openser.domain.name 
> <mailto:sip:00862123456789 at openser.domain.name> F= 
> sip:101 at openser.domain.name <mailto:sip:101 at openser.domain.name> 
> T=sip:00862123456789 at openser.domain.name 
> <mailto:sip:00862123456789 at openser.domain.name> IP=61.217.xxx.xxx 
> ID=25C0CC42-016D-4FEC-9B60-A0D1076A8816 at 192.168.11.9 
> <mailto:ID=25C0CC42-016D-4FEC-9B60-A0D1076A8816 at 192.168.11.9>
> openser[16801]: Load caller preferences for uuid '1' - M=INVITE 
> RURI=sip:00862123456789 at openser.domain.name 
> <mailto:sip:00862123456789 at openser.domain.name> 
> F=sip:101 at openser.domain.name <mailto:sip:101 at openser.domain.name> 
> T=sip:00862123456789 at openser.domain.name 
> <mailto:sip:00862123456789 at openser.domain.name> IP=61.217.xxx.xxx 
> ID=25C0CC42-016D-4FEC-9B60-A0D1076A8816 at 192.168.11.9 
> <mailto:ID=25C0CC42-016D-4FEC-9B60-A0D1076A8816 at 192.168.11.9>
> openser[16801]: route[13] Invite Find Callee - M=INVITE 
> RURI=sip:00862123456789 at openser.domain.name 
> <mailto:sip:00862123456789 at openser.domain.name> F= 
> sip:101 at openser.domain.name <mailto:sip:101 at openser.domain.name> 
> T=sip:00862123456789 at openser.domain.name 
> <mailto:sip:00862123456789 at openser.domain.name> IP=61.217.xxx.xxx 
> ID=25C0CC42-016D-4FEC-9B60-A0D1076A8816 at 192.168.11.9 
> <mailto:ID=25C0CC42-016D-4FEC-9B60-A0D1076A8816 at 192.168.11.9>
> openser[16801]: route[2] Clear Usr Preferences Callee - M=INVITE 
> RURI=sip:00862123456789 at openser.domain.name 
> <mailto:sip:00862123456789 at openser.domain.name> 
> F=sip:101 at openser.domain.name <mailto:sip:101 at openser.domain.name> 
> T=sip:00862123456789 at openser.domain.name 
> <mailto:sip:00862123456789 at openser.domain.name> IP=61.217.xxx.xxx 
> ID=25C0CC42-016D-4FEC-9B60-A0D1076A8816 at 192.168.11.9 
> <mailto:ID=25C0CC42-016D-4FEC-9B60-A0D1076A8816 at 192.168.11.9>
> openser[16801]: Clear callee preferences - M=INVITE 
> RURI=sip:00862123456789 at openser.domain.name 
> <mailto:sip:00862123456789 at openser.domain.name> F= 
> sip:101 at openser.domain.name <mailto:sip:101 at openser.domain.name> 
> T=sip:00862123456789 at openser.domain.name 
> <mailto:sip:00862123456789 at openser.domain.name> IP=61.217.xxx.xxx 
> ID=25C0CC42-016D-4FEC-9B60-A0D1076A8816 at 192.168.11.9 
> <mailto:ID=25C0CC42-016D-4FEC-9B60-A0D1076A8816 at 192.168.11.9>
> openser[16801]: Callee is not local - M=INVITE 
> RURI=sip:00862123456789 at openser.domain.name 
> <mailto:sip:00862123456789 at openser.domain.name> F= 
> sip:101 at openser.domain.name <mailto:sip:101 at openser.domain.name> 
> T=sip:00862123456789 at openser.domain.name 
> <mailto:sip:00862123456789 at openser.domain.name> IP=61.217.xxx.xxx 
> ID=25C0CC42-016D-4FEC-9B60-A0D1076A8816 at 192.168.11.9 
> <mailto:ID=25C0CC42-016D-4FEC-9B60-A0D1076A8816 at 192.168.11.9>
> openser[16801]: route[15] Invite To External - M=INVITE 
> RURI=sip:00862123456789 at openser.domain.name 
> <mailto:sip:00862123456789 at openser.domain.name> F= 
> sip:101 at openser.domain.name <mailto:sip:101 at openser.domain.name> 
> T=sip:00862123456789 at openser.domain.name 
> <mailto:sip:00862123456789 at openser.domain.name> IP=61.217.xxx.xxx 
> ID=25C0CC42-016D-4FEC-9B60-A0D1076A8816 at 192.168.11.9 
> <mailto:ID=25C0CC42-016D-4FEC-9B60-A0D1076A8816 at 192.168.11.9>
> openser[16801]: Loading PSTN gateways - M=INVITE 
> RURI=sip:00862123456789 at openser.domain.name 
> <mailto:sip:00862123456789 at openser.domain.name> F= 
> sip:101 at openser.domain.name <mailto:sip:101 at openser.domain.name> 
> T=sip:00862123456789 at openser.domain.name 
> <mailto:sip:00862123456789 at openser.domain.name> IP=61.217.xxx.xxx 
> ID=25C0CC42-016D-4FEC-9B60-A0D1076A8816 at 192.168.11.9 
> <mailto:ID=25C0CC42-016D-4FEC-9B60-A0D1076A8816 at 192.168.11.9>
> openser[16801]: route[11] Base Outbound - M=INVITE 
> RURI=sip:02123456789 at asterisk.ip.addr:5060;transport=udp 
> F=sip:101 at openser.domain.name <mailto:sip:101 at openser.domain.name> 
> T=sip:00862123456789 at openser.domain.name 
> <mailto:sip:00862123456789 at openser.domain.name> IP=61.217.xxx.xxx 
> ID=25C0CC42-016D-4FEC-9B60-A0D1076A8816 at 192.168.11.9 
> <mailto:ID=25C0CC42-016D-4FEC-9B60-A0D1076A8816 at 192.168.11.9>
> openser[16801]: route[8] Clir - M=INVITE 
> RURI=sip:02123456789 at asterisk.ip.addr:5060;transport=udp 
> F=sip:101 at openser.domain.name <mailto:sip:101 at openser.domain.name> T= 
> sip:00862123456789 at openser.domain.name 
> <mailto:sip:00862123456789 at openser.domain.name> IP=61.217.xxx.xxx 
> ID=25C0CC42-016D-4FEC-9B60-A0D1076A8816 at 192.168.11.9 
> <mailto:ID=25C0CC42-016D-4FEC-9B60-A0D1076A8816 at 192.168.11.9>
> localhost mediaproxy[1905]: command request 
> 25C0CC42-016D-4FEC-9B60-A0D1076A8816 at 192.168.11.9 
> <mailto:25C0CC42-016D-4FEC-9B60-A0D1076A8816 at 192.168.11.9> 
> 192.168.11.9:57538 <http://192.168.11.9:57538>:audio 61.217.xxx.xxx 
> openser.domain.name <http://openser.domain.name> local 
> asterisk.ip.addr remote X-PRO=20build=201082 
> info=from:101 at openser.domain.name 
> <mailto:from:101 at openser.domain.name>,to:00862123456789 at openser.domain.name 
> <mailto:to:00862123456789 at openser.domain.name>,fromtag:1111281943,totag:
> localhost mediaproxy[1905]: session 
> 25C0CC42-016D-4FEC-9B60-A0D1076A8816 at 192.168.11.9 
> <mailto:25C0CC42-016D-4FEC-9B60-A0D1076A8816 at 192.168.11.9>: started. 
> listening on 60.250.132.204:35076 <http://60.250.132.204:35076>
> localhost mediaproxy[1905]: command execution time:  3.04 ms
> openser[16801]: Request leaving server - M=INVITE 
> RURI=sip:02123456789 at asterisk.ip.addr:5060;transport=udp F= 
> sip:101 at openser.domain.name <mailto:sip:101 at openser.domain.name> 
> T=sip:00862123456789 at openser.domain.name 
> <mailto:sip:00862123456789 at openser.domain.name> IP=61.217.xxx.xxx 
> ID=25C0CC42-016D-4FEC-9B60-A0D1076A8816 at 192.168.11.9 
> <mailto:ID=25C0CC42-016D-4FEC-9B60-A0D1076A8816 at 192.168.11.9>
>  
>  
>  
> ################# my asterisk CLI ########################
> [root at asterisk ~]# asterisk -rvvvvvvvvvvvvvv
>   == Parsing '/etc/asterisk/asterisk.conf': Found
>   == Parsing '/etc/asterisk/extconfig.conf': Found
>   == Binding iaxusers to mysql/asterisk/iaxfriends
>   == Binding iaxpeers to mysql/asterisk/iaxfriends
>   == Binding queues to mysql/asterisk/queue_table
>   == Binding queue_members to mysql/asterisk/queue_member_table
> Asterisk 1.2.16, Copyright (C) 1999 - 2006 Digium, Inc. and others.
> Created by Mark Spencer <markster at digium.com <mailto:markster at digium.com>>
> Asterisk comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY; type 'show warranty' for 
> details.
> This is free software, with components licensed under the GNU General 
> Public
> License version 2 and other licenses; you are welcome to redistribute 
> it under
> certain conditions. Type 'show license' for details.
> =========================================================================
> Connected to Asterisk 1.2.16 currently running on asterisk (pid = 26311)
> Verbosity is at least 14
>     -- Remote UNIX connection
> asterisk*CLI> sip debug
> SIP Debugging re-enabled
> asterisk*CLI>
>  
>  
>  
>  
> #########  my command running on asterisk machine: "ngrep -t -W byline 
> -d any port 5060"  ####################
> interface: any
> filter: (ip) and ( port 5060 )
> #
> U 2007/05/17 13:31:35.908163 my.openser.ip.addr:5060 -> 
> my.asterisk.ip.addr:5060
> INVITE sip:03939749001 at my.asterisk.ip.addr:5060;transport=udp SIP/2.0.
> Record-Route: <sip:my.openser.ip.addr;lr;ftag=3840196923;nat=yes>.
> Via: SIP/2.0/UDP my.openser.ip.addr;branch=z9hG4bKab01.ae06a6e5.0.
> Via: SIP/2.0/UDP 192.168.11.9:57536 <http://192.168.11.9:57536/> 
> ;received=61.217.xxx.xxx;rport=57536;branch=z9hG4bK834BA777F3C7439EBBC7C4DAECC52FD4.
> From: 101 < sip:101 at my.openser.domain.name 
> <mailto:sip:101 at my.openser.domain.name>>;tag=3840196923.
> To: < sip:0028863939749001 at my.openser.domain.name 
> <mailto:sip:0028863939749001 at my.openser.domain.name>>.
> Contact: <sip:101 at 61.217.xxx.xxx:57536>.
> Call-ID: 18875244-8D15-416B-92B7-DD24DA4630E2 at 192.168.11.9 
> <mailto:18875244-8D15-416B-92B7-DD24DA4630E2 at 192.168.11.9>.
> CSeq: 4807 INVITE.
> Max-Forwards: 69.
> Content-Type: application/sdp.
> User-Agent: X-LITE build 1082.
> Content-Length: 321.
> .
> v=0.
> o=101 45727796 45727796 IN IP4 192.168.11.9 <http://192.168.11.9/>.
> s=X-LITE.
> c=IN IP4 my.openser.ip.addr.
> t=0 0.
> m=audio 35066 RTP/AVP 0 8 3 18 98 97 101.
> a=rtpmap:0 pcmu/8000.
> a=rtpmap:8 pcma/8000.
> a=rtpmap:3 gsm/8000.
> a=rtpmap:18 G729/8000.
> a=rtpmap:98 iLBC/8000.
> a=rtpmap:97 speex/8000.
> a=rtpmap:101 telephone-event/8000.
> a=fmtp:101 0-15.
>
> #
> U 2007/05/17 13:31:36.325713 my.openser.ip.addr:5060 -> 
> my.asterisk.ip.addr:5060
> INVITE sip:03939749001 at my.asterisk.ip.addr:5060;transport=udp SIP/2.0.
> Record-Route: <sip:my.openser.ip.addr;lr;ftag=3840196923;nat=yes>.
> Via: SIP/2.0/UDP my.openser.ip.addr;branch=z9hG4bKab01.ae06a6e5.0.
> Via: SIP/2.0/UDP 192.168.11.9:57536 <http://192.168.11.9:57536/> 
> ;received=61.217.xxx.xxx;rport=57536;branch=z9hG4bK834BA777F3C7439EBBC7C4DAECC52FD4. 
>
> From: 101 < sip:101 at my.openser.domain.name 
> <mailto:sip:101 at my.openser.domain.name>>;tag=3840196923.
> To: <sip:0028863939749001 at my.openser.domain.name 
> <mailto:sip:0028863939749001 at my.openser.domain.name>>.
> Contact: <sip:101 at 61.217.xxx.xxx:57536>.
> Call-ID: 18875244-8D15-416B-92B7-DD24DA4630E2 at 192.168.11.9 
> <mailto:18875244-8D15-416B-92B7-DD24DA4630E2 at 192.168.11.9>.
> CSeq: 4807 INVITE.
> Max-Forwards: 69.
> Content-Type: application/sdp.
> User-Agent: X-LITE build 1082.
> Content-Length: 321.
> .
> v=0.
> o=101 45727796 45727796 IN IP4 192.168.11.9 <http://192.168.11.9/>.
> s=X-LITE.
> c=IN IP4 my.openser.ip.addr .
> t=0 0.
> m=audio 35066 RTP/AVP 0 8 3 18 98 97 101.
> a=rtpmap:0 pcmu/8000.
> a=rtpmap:8 pcma/8000.
> a=rtpmap:3 gsm/8000.
> a=rtpmap:18 G729/8000.
> a=rtpmap:98 iLBC/8000.
> a=rtpmap:97 speex/8000.
> a=rtpmap:101 telephone-event/8000.
> a=fmtp:101 0-15.
>
> #
> U 2007/05/17 13:31:37.325722 my.openser.ip.addr:5060 -> 
> my.asterisk.ip.addr:5060
> INVITE sip:03939749001 at my.asterisk.ip.addr:5060;transport=udp SIP/2.0.
> Record-Route: <sip:my.openser.ip.addr;lr;ftag=3840196923;nat=yes>.
> Via: SIP/2.0/UDP my.openser.ip.addr;branch=z9hG4bKab01.ae06a6e5.0.
> Via: SIP/2.0/UDP 192.168.11.9:57536 <http://192.168.11.9:57536/> 
> ;received=61.217.xxx.xxx;rport=57536;branch=z9hG4bK834BA777F3C7439EBBC7C4DAECC52FD4. 
>
> From: 101 < sip:101 at my.openser.domain.name 
> <mailto:sip:101 at my.openser.domain.name>>;tag=3840196923.
> To: <sip:0028863939749001 at my.openser.domain.name 
> <mailto:sip:0028863939749001 at my.openser.domain.name>>.
> Contact: <sip:101 at 61.217.xxx.xxx:57536>.
> Call-ID: 18875244-8D15-416B-92B7-DD24DA4630E2 at 192.168.11.9 
> <mailto:18875244-8D15-416B-92B7-DD24DA4630E2 at 192.168.11.9>.
> CSeq: 4807 INVITE.
> Max-Forwards: 69.
> Content-Type: application/sdp.
> User-Agent: X-LITE build 1082.
> Content-Length: 321.
> .
> v=0.
> o=101 45727796 45727796 IN IP4 192.168.11.9 <http://192.168.11.9/>.
> s=X-LITE.
> c=IN IP4 my.openser.ip.addr .
> t=0 0.
> m=audio 35066 RTP/AVP 0 8 3 18 98 97 101.
> a=rtpmap:0 pcmu/8000.
> a=rtpmap:8 pcma/8000.
> a=rtpmap:3 gsm/8000.
> a=rtpmap:18 G729/8000.
> a=rtpmap:98 iLBC/8000.
> a=rtpmap:97 speex/8000.
> a=rtpmap:101 telephone-event/8000.
> a=fmtp:101 0-15.
>
> #
> U 2007/05/17 13:31:39.325425 my.openser.ip.addr:5060 -> 
> my.asterisk.ip.addr:5060
> INVITE sip:03939749001 at my.asterisk.ip.addr:5060;transport=udp SIP/2.0.
> Record-Route: <sip:my.openser.ip.addr;lr;ftag=3840196923;nat=yes>.
> Via: SIP/2.0/UDP my.openser.ip.addr;branch=z9hG4bKab01.ae06a6e5.0.
> Via: SIP/2.0/UDP 192.168.11.9:57536 <http://192.168.11.9:57536/> 
> ;received=61.217.xxx.xxx;rport=57536;branch=z9hG4bK834BA777F3C7439EBBC7C4DAECC52FD4. 
>
> From: 101 < sip:101 at my.openser.domain.name 
> <mailto:sip:101 at my.openser.domain.name>>;tag=3840196923.
> To: <sip:0028863939749001 at my.openser.domain.name 
> <mailto:sip:0028863939749001 at my.openser.domain.name>>.
> Contact: <sip:101 at 61.217.xxx.xxx:57536>.
> Call-ID: 18875244-8D15-416B-92B7-DD24DA4630E2 at 192.168.11.9 
> <mailto:18875244-8D15-416B-92B7-DD24DA4630E2 at 192.168.11.9>.
> CSeq: 4807 INVITE.
> Max-Forwards: 69.
> Content-Type: application/sdp.
> User-Agent: X-LITE build 1082.
> Content-Length: 321.
> .
> v=0.
> o=101 45727796 45727796 IN IP4 192.168.11.9 <http://192.168.11.9/>.
> s=X-LITE.
> c=IN IP4 my.openser.ip.addr .
> t=0 0.
> m=audio 35066 RTP/AVP 0 8 3 18 98 97 101.
> a=rtpmap:0 pcmu/8000.
> a=rtpmap:8 pcma/8000.
> a=rtpmap:3 gsm/8000.
> a=rtpmap:18 G729/8000.
> a=rtpmap:98 iLBC/8000.
> a=rtpmap:97 speex/8000.
> a=rtpmap:101 telephone-event/8000.
> a=fmtp:101 0-15.
>
>  
>
>
> -- 
>
> Best Regards
> Charles
>
>
> -- 
>
> Best Regards
> Charles
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