[SR-Users] BYE and TCP
Kjeld Flarup
kjeld.flarup at liberalismen.dk
Wed Jan 13 23:14:05 CET 2021
Hi Yuriy
Thanks for Your suggestions. I looked at them, and it seems to me that
they all are supposed to be on the receiving side.
My side is the client side behind NAT, and only does INVITE, I never
receives INVITES.
The alias concept looks interesting but I doubt that I can convince the
provider to use is, as the documentation states it to be dangerous.
When looking up the force_tcp_alias I noticed that fix_natted_contact
was recomended for NAT traversal. I do not know if the provider uses,
this function. Could that be the cause?
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On 1/12/21 8:59 AM, Yuriy Gorlichenko wrote:
> It doesn't matter whet port used by provider when it sent initial
> INVITE to you.
>
> Record-route and Route headers are Proxy headers. They are announce
> addresses of the proxy for the listening. That means when UA sends the
> request it has to use port mentioned in the first of the Route headers
> or in the Request URI header.
> That means that your kamailio has to create new connection to this
> host port pair or reuse it if it already exists to reach provider's
> server. So there is nothing bad if you will create new connection for
> BYE to port 7071.
>
> However, If provider initiated INVITE to you and sent it from the
> different port ( which is true because for that transaction provider
> has to behave atleast as TCP client ) and connection still alive (
> socket still exists ) - you can try to use $du variable and put here
> existing address used for the connection to provider.
> But remember it is a hack.
>
> This is also can be achieved via as mentioned above global param
>
> tcp_accept_aliases =yes
>
> And functions wich has to be called on initial invite:
> tcp_keepalive_enable
> force_tcp_alias
>
> On Tue, 12 Jan 2021, 07:15 Kjeld Flarup, <kjeld.flarup at liberalismen.dk
> <mailto:kjeld.flarup at liberalismen.dk>> wrote:
>
> Hi Daniel
>
> The Record route in the INVITE from 194.247.61.26 sets this pair
>
> Record-Route:
> <sip:194.255.22.44:7071;transport=tcp;r2=on;lr=on;ftag=6acjlRdN~;did=836.f1b1>
> Record-Route:
> <sip:194.255.22.44:7071;r2=on;lr=on;ftag=6acjlRdN~;did=836.f1b1>
>
> The Bye requests this route
>
> Route:
> <sip:194.255.22.44:7071;transport=tcp;r2=on;lr=on;ftag=6acjlRdN~;did=836.f1b1>
> Route:
> <sip:194.255.22.44:7071;r2=on;lr=on;ftag=6acjlRdN~;did=836.f1b1>
>
> But the real port on 194.255.22.44 is 36059
>
> It is my invite to 194.247.61.26 that sets the 7071 port, which
> automatically comes from the listen statement.
> I suspect that it might work if the invite was using 36059, but
> how can I know this port, if the NAT router decides to map it to
> another port.
>
>
> What is the correct behaviour. Should my Kamailio somehow set the
> correct port?
>
> Should the providers Kamailio rewrite the route information?
>
> Or something else?
>
>
>
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> On 1/11/21 10:18 AM, Daniel-Constantin Mierla wrote:
>>
>> The From/To/Call-ID are not used to match the connection. The
>> connection is matched based on target IP and port. For BYE, these
>> are taken from Route header, if there is one for next hop,
>> otherwise it is the request URI. Check these two to see if
>> something is not as expected. Otherwise, you have to discuss with
>> the provider and see the reason it returns back the 477 response.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Daniel
>>
>> On 08.01.21 20:36, Kjeld Flarup wrote:
>>>
>>> Happy New Year everyone.
>>>
>>>
>>> I haven't solved this problem yet. Although is it not critical,
>>> it is a bit annoying.
>>>
>>> I have tried to simplify things, and have a reference setup that
>>> works.
>>> My linphone sends a TCP call and my Asterisk answers, plays a
>>> speak and hangs up.
>>>
>>>
>>> If I instead sends the call to my PBX, which handles the
>>> authentication via UAC, it fails with this error, which the
>>> customer site also generated.
>>>
>>> Status-Line: SIP/2.0 477 Unfortunately error on sending to
>>> next hop occurred (477/SL)
>>>
>>> Unfortunately the error is not generated by my Kamailio, but by
>>> a Kamailio at the provider, when it gets a Bye forwarded via
>>> their SBC.
>>>
>>>
>>> I have attached a capture which the provider send me. This is
>>> the setup
>>>
>>> linphone -> My Kamailio PBX (194.255.22.44:36089
>>> <http://194.255.22.44:36089>) -> provider
>>> Kamailio(194.247.61.26) -> SBC(194.247.61.32) -> provider
>>> Kamailio(194.247.61.26) -> my Asterisk (194.255.22.44:45075
>>> <http://194.255.22.44:45075>)
>>>
>>> A note on the providers Kamailio. It listens on both port 5060
>>> and 5070, and both UDP/TCP.
>>> It is also used as access point for both my PBX and my Asterisk,
>>> thus the trace may be a little confusing to read.
>>>
>>> As far as I can see, the provider Kamailio gets the correct
>>> To/From and CallID in the bye. Thus it should be able to match
>>> the TCP connection.
>>> The flow is also clean, there is no change of ports etc.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I have this reference setup which works
>>>
>>> linphone -> provider Kamailio -> SBC -> provider Kamailio ->
>>> my Asterisk
>>>
>>> The only differences towards the reference I can see these. I do
>>> not have a capture from the provider on this.
>>>
>>> * There is an extra Via step.
>>> * Contact points to the Linphone IP, not the Kamailio IP
>>>
>>> Any hint will be appreciated.
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>> On 11/9/20 12:06 PM, Daniel-Constantin Mierla wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hello,
>>>>
>>>> there is no association between a SIP call and a TCP
>>>> connection. SIP is not designed on TCP streams, the forwarding
>>>> is based on the headers. It doesn't matter if there are
>>>> messages belonging to same call or not, they can share same
>>>> connection, or can open a new one...
>>>>
>>>> The BYE from caller gets to 194.247.61.32:5040
>>>> <http://194.247.61.32:5040>, which cannot deliver it further
>>>> based on Route header. The system at 194.247.61.26:5070
>>>> <http://194.247.61.26:5070> must be able to accept connections
>>>> on advertised port of the Route address. Again, connection
>>>> interruption can happen from various cases, it cannot rely on
>>>> ephemeral ports, but on what the SIP system advertises as
>>>> "listen" address.
>>>>
>>>> One can play with tcp port aliases, look at Kamailio core
>>>> cookbook, in case 194.247.61.32:5040
>>>> <http://194.247.61.32:5040> can do that. But that is not the
>>>> proper way for server to server communication, there will be
>>>> cases when the connection will be cut for various reasons (can
>>>> be also the IP routes in the path that get congested).
>>>>
>>>> Otherwise, you can follow the code of tcp_send() function in
>>>> the tcp_main.c from core to see how tcp connection is matched,
>>>> there are various cases there, also a matter of the config
>>>> parameters.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Daniel
>>>>
>>>> On 09.11.20 10:13, Kjeld Flarup wrote:
>>>>> Hello
>>>>>
>>>>> I have attached a pcap received from the provider.
>>>>>
>>>>> It is quite informative as it shows bits of how they forward
>>>>> the call.
>>>>>
>>>>> We send to 194.247.61.26 which is a Kamailio proxy, that
>>>>> forwards the call to a SBC 194.247.61.32
>>>>>
>>>>> My guess is that the 194.247.61.26 kamailio gets confused,
>>>>> and does not match the BYE with the ongoing TCP session.
>>>>> Instead it sees it as a new session, and forwards it according
>>>>> to the route information.
>>>>>
>>>>> Can anybody help explaining what fields Kamailio uses to match
>>>>> an ongoing TCP session.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards Kjeld
>>>>>
>>>>> Den fre. 6. nov. 2020 kl. 10.50 skrev Daniel-Constantin Mierla
>>>>> <miconda at gmail.com <mailto:miconda at gmail.com>>:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>
>>>>> from SIP specs point of view, can be any port -- ACK and
>>>>> BYE do not have to follow same path as INVITE, so they can
>>>>> even come from a different IP.
>>>>>
>>>>> Then, the call can be closed after 30secs because also the
>>>>> ACK has the same problems with the header as the BYE. Your
>>>>> pcap didn't include all the traffic, you have to capture
>>>>> both directions on your kamailio server to see what
>>>>> happens on each side.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Daniel
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 06.11.20 10:35, Kjeld Flarup wrote:
>>>>>> Hi Daniel
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The Unknown Dialog comes because the server hang up the
>>>>>> call 30 seconds earlier. We never gets these BYE
>>>>>> messages, thus the door phone hangs times out and hangs up.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My question is still, which port is the BYE from the
>>>>>> server supposed to be sent to?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The original 37148
>>>>>> The new 37150
>>>>>> or the advertised 5071
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards Kjeld
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Den fre. 6. nov. 2020 kl. 10.18 skrev Daniel-Constantin
>>>>>> Mierla <miconda at gmail.com <mailto:miconda at gmail.com>>:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think you hunt a mirage problem here by looking at
>>>>>> the ports of tcp connections, if you think that being
>>>>>> different ports is the cause of BYE failure. The ACK
>>>>>> fpr 200ok is independent of the INVITE transaction
>>>>>> and can have a completely different path than INVITE,
>>>>>> thus is completely valid to use another connection.
>>>>>> Of course, if follows the same path as INVITE, if the
>>>>>> connection is still open, it should be reused. But is
>>>>>> a matter of matching, it can be that the INVITE uses
>>>>>> different destination identifiers or the connection
>>>>>> gets cut from different reasons. But the point is
>>>>>> that even if there is a different connection, it
>>>>>> should work.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So, I actually looked at the pcap capture you sent in
>>>>>> one of your previous emails and the BYE is sent out,
>>>>>> but gets back:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> SIP/2.0 481 Unknown Dialog.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Therefore it gets to the end point, which doesn't
>>>>>> match it with any of its active calls. Looking at the
>>>>>> headers, the 200ok/INVITE has:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> From: "Front Door"
>>>>>> <sip:32221660 at 194.255.22.44:5071>;tag=thm9OFNQemH0IsqgRR1jDGF4rjVivTOK.
>>>>>> To: <sip:004540294149 at 127.0.0.1:5071>;tag=12003375157297.
>>>>>> Call-ID: ***FgXBdt966gypC5V1T5VGUtLILtzxsJJ57NRSL5UMUiq*.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And the BYE:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> From: "Front Door"
>>>>>> <sip:u0 at 192.168.2.9>;tag=thm9OFNQemH0IsqgRR1jDGF4rjVivTOK.
>>>>>> To:
>>>>>> sip:195.249.145.198:5060;transport=udp;line=sr-z-yMngm27FwI73qx0CQo6gm2n3ao03LMn5UILt2NziWIO3ooTDc*;tag=12003375157297.
>>>>>> Call-ID: ***FgXBdt966gypC5V1T5VGUtLILtzxsJJ57NRSL5UMUiq*.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> While the dialog should be matched on call-id,
>>>>>> from/to-tags, the From/To URI should be the same to
>>>>>> be strict conformant with RFC3261 (that mandates
>>>>>> unchanged From/To for backward compatibility with
>>>>>> RFC2543). Likely you do some From/To header changes
>>>>>> that are not done correctly to update/restore the
>>>>>> values for traffic within dialog.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> Daniel
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 06.11.20 09:31, Kjeld Flarup wrote:
>>>>>>> Thanks Juha
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That makes it somehow easier to understand my
>>>>>>> capture. My Kamailio must then have detected a
>>>>>>> broken TCP connection, though I cannot see why in
>>>>>>> the capture, neither in the log, but I only run on
>>>>>>> debug level 2.
>>>>>>> It receives a 200 OK on port 37148, and then
>>>>>>> establishes 37150 to reply with an ACK.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> However two seconds before receiving the 200 OK,
>>>>>>> there are some spurious retransmissions and out of
>>>>>>> order on 37148. Perhaps this has caused Kamailio to
>>>>>>> deem the connection bad, but it still receives data
>>>>>>> on it.
>>>>>>> Now I assume that the providers server (Which also
>>>>>>> is flying Kamailio) should detect the new port, and
>>>>>>> continue using that. I got a trace from the
>>>>>>> provider, where there is no disturbance. Thus the
>>>>>>> server thinks that the connection is OK.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Now my next question is, what makes a Kamailio
>>>>>>> detect this change?
>>>>>>> Is it a problem that I only rewrite To and From in
>>>>>>> the INVITE, thus the ACK contains some other values.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It is also a bit strange that I get this error
>>>>>>> exactly, the same place in the conversation every
>>>>>>> time I make a call. Somehow I suspect some NAT
>>>>>>> timeout in the router. (it is not carrier grade NAT).
>>>>>>> Can I do anything to prevent a NAT timeout from the
>>>>>>> client side?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Another thing. I assume that sending my
>>>>>>> internal port in the From field, or any kind of
>>>>>>> advertising, should be ignored by the server.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regards Kjeld
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Den fre. 6. nov. 2020 kl. 07.45 skrev Juha Heinanen
>>>>>>> <jh at tutpro.com <mailto:jh at tutpro.com>>:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Kjeld Flarup writes:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > How is TCP SIP actually supposed to handle a
>>>>>>> BYE, when the client is
>>>>>>> > behind NAT.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Client behind NAT is supposed to keep its TCP
>>>>>>> connection to SIP Proxy
>>>>>>> alive and use it for all requests of the call.
>>>>>>> If the connection breaks
>>>>>>> for some reason, the client sets up a new one
>>>>>>> for the remaining
>>>>>>> requests.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -- Juha
>>>>>>>
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