[SR-Users] Strange PUA Behaviour

Daniel-Constantin Mierla miconda at gmail.com
Tue Jan 26 23:41:18 CET 2016


No, I meant when it is taken from dialog max lifetime value (so when the
override_lifetime is not set).

Looks like I need to dig in the code anyhow, I am not the author of the
module to know by heart what is inside -- just need some spare time when
I get to the office, not easy to set a testbed while traveling...

Cheers,
Daniel

On 26/01/16 22:23, Phil Lavin wrote:
>
> It does it when the value is taken from override_lifetime, if that’s
> what you mean. The override_lifetime value has been set sufficiently
> high such that a refresh is not required because calls on our platform
> cannot last more than 4 hours.
>
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> *From:*Daniel-Constantin Mierla [mailto:miconda at gmail.com]
> *Sent:* 26 January 2016 21:08
> *To:* Phil Lavin <phil.lavin at synety.com>; Kamailio (SER) - Users
> Mailing List <sr-users at lists.sip-router.org>
> *Cc:* Telco Team <telco-team at synety.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [SR-Users] Strange PUA Behaviour
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> On 26/01/16 12:54, Phil Lavin wrote:
>
>     Sorry, correction – desired expires is always 1 second LESS than
>     expires.
>
>
> Is this above happening when taking it from the dialog module value?
>
> Cheers,
> Daniel
>
>      
>
>      
>
>     Phil
>
>      
>
>     *From:*Phil Lavin
>     *Sent:* 26 January 2016 11:54
>     *To:* 'miconda at gmail.com <mailto:miconda at gmail.com>'
>     <miconda at gmail.com> <mailto:miconda at gmail.com>; Kamailio (SER) -
>     Users Mailing List <sr-users at lists.sip-router.org>
>     <mailto:sr-users at lists.sip-router.org>
>     *Cc:* Telco Team <telco-team at synety.com>
>     <mailto:telco-team at synety.com>
>     *Subject:* RE: [SR-Users] Strange PUA Behaviour
>
>      
>
>     Hi Daniel,
>
>      
>
>     Not setting the lifetime does indeed take the expiry from the
>     dialog but the mechanism that refreshes the expiry when the call
>     is ongoing does not run unless max_expires time is less than the
>     lifetime. This seems to be because of the below code in pua.c:
>
>      
>
>     if((p->desired_expires> p->expires + min_expires) ||
>
>           (p->desired_expires== 0 ))
>
>      
>
>     The desired_expires value is always 1 second greater than the
>     expires value unless you set max_expires to pull it down. This has
>     the side effect that the presentity entries are cleaned up
>     prematurely, however.
>
>      
>
>     Setting lifetime to a high value negates the need for the
>     refreshes to happen.
>
>      
>
>      
>
>     Cheers
>
>      
>
>     Phil
>
>      
>
>     *From:*Daniel-Constantin Mierla [mailto:miconda at gmail.com]
>     *Sent:* 26 January 2016 11:36
>     *To:* Phil Lavin <phil.lavin at synety.com
>     <mailto:phil.lavin at synety.com>>; Kamailio (SER) - Users Mailing
>     List <sr-users at lists.sip-router.org
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>     *Cc:* Telco Team <telco-team at synety.com
>     <mailto:telco-team at synety.com>>
>     *Subject:* Re: [SR-Users] Strange PUA Behaviour
>
>      
>
>     Hello,
>
>     thanks to tackling this further ... see my comments inline...
>
>     On 26/01/16 11:46, Phil Lavin wrote:
>
>         We now have something of a resolution to this. Config is
>         below. The key differences are:
>
>          
>
>         ·         pua – db_mode set to 0. This stops multiple states
>         for a single dialog (early, trying, confirmed and terminated)
>         from showing in the presentity table. I suspect this is a bug?
>
>
>     OK -- still in my todo to pursue this case.
>
>
>         ·         pua_dialoginfo – override_lifetime set to a value >
>         4 hours. 4 hours chosen because our platform terminates calls
>         after 4 hours to stop incomplete calls from continuing
>         forever. There does seem to be a mechanism to refresh the
>         expiry time of presentity records but it is only called when
>         the max_expires time is less than the override_lifetime. Doing
>         that causes records to be prematurely cleaned up. I suspect a
>         few different bugs here?
>
>
>     IIRC, if you don't set:
>
>     modparam("pua_dialoginfo", "override_lifetime", 14420)
>
>     The value is taken from max dialog duration. Can you try without
>     this parameter? The parameter should be used only if you want to
>     overwrite the dialog module value.
>
>     Cheers,
>     Daniel
>
>          
>
>         # ----- presence params -----
>
>         modparam("presence", "db_url", DBURL)
>
>         modparam("presence", "send_fast_notify", 0)
>
>         modparam("presence", "db_update_period", 20)
>
>         modparam("presence", "clean_period", 60)
>
>         modparam("presence", "max_expires", 14430)
>
>         # ----- presence_xml params -----
>
>         modparam("presence_xml", "db_url", DBURL)
>
>         modparam("presence_xml", "force_active", 1)
>
>         # ----- presence_dialoginfo -----
>
>         modparam("presence_dialoginfo", "force_single_dialog", 0)
>
>         modparam("presence_dialoginfo", "force_dummy_dialog", 1)
>
>         # ----- pua params -----
>
>         modparam("pua", "db_url", DBURL)
>
>         modparam("pua", "db_mode", 0)
>
>         modparam("pua", "update_period", 20)
>
>         modparam("pua", "dlginfo_increase_version", 0)
>
>         modparam("pua", "reginfo_increase_version", 0)
>
>         # ----- pua_dialoginfo params -----
>
>         modparam("pua_dialoginfo", "send_publish_flag", FLT_DLGINFO)
>
>         modparam("pua_dialoginfo", "override_lifetime", 14420)
>
>         modparam("pua_dialoginfo", "include_callid", 1)
>
>         modparam("pua_dialoginfo", "caller_confirmed", 0)
>
>         modparam("pua_dialoginfo", "include_tags", 1)
>
>          
>
>          
>
>         Phil
>
>          
>
>         *From:*Phil Lavin
>         *Sent:* 22 January 2016 13:19
>         *To:* miconda at gmail.com <mailto:miconda at gmail.com>; Kamailio
>         (SER) - Users Mailing List <sr-users at lists.sip-router.org>
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>         *Cc:* Telco Team <telco-team at synety.com>
>         <mailto:telco-team at synety.com>
>         *Subject:* RE: [SR-Users] Strange PUA Behaviour
>
>          
>
>         Hi Daniel,
>
>          
>
>         Any thoughts on this?
>
>          
>
>          
>
>         Thanks
>
>          
>
>         Phil Lavin
>
>         Telecoms Systems Manager
>
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>         *From:*Phil Lavin
>         *Sent:* 20 January 2016 19:52
>         *To:* miconda at gmail.com <mailto:miconda at gmail.com>; Kamailio
>         (SER) - Users Mailing List <sr-users at lists.sip-router.org
>         <mailto:sr-users at lists.sip-router.org>>
>         *Cc:* Telco Team <telco-team at synety.com
>         <mailto:telco-team at synety.com>>
>         *Subject:* RE: [SR-Users] Strange PUA Behaviour
>
>          
>
>         Hi Daniel,
>
>          
>
>         Sorry for the delay in replying. I’ve attached blf.cap which
>         shows the “light stays on” scenario. You’ll see that the final
>         NOTIFY (packet 43) is a “confirmed” rather than a “terminated”
>         as per the PUBLISH  (packet 41) that triggered it.
>
>          
>
>         I’ve also attached presentity.txt which is the contents of the
>         DB before the pcap was taken.
>
>          
>
>         With regards to your question about the light going out after
>         the entries in the table have expired, this does happen
>         automatically. As soon as the table drops down to being empty
>         (it takes a couple of minutes to fully clear), the light goes
>         off. Subsequent calls will work correctly with BLF until it
>         eventually stops working and the whole cycle repeats.
>
>          
>
>         I have repeated the test with subs_db_mode 0 and the same
>         results occur. This is, in fact, the state it was in when the
>         attached pcap was taken.
>
>          
>
>         Do you think the problem is in the cleanup of the data or in
>         the way the active dialog is matched against the set of data
>         in the table? Happy to prod through the code with gdb if you
>         can point me in the direction of where to start looking.
>
>          
>
>          
>
>         Cheers
>
>          
>
>         Phil
>
>          
>
>         *From:*Daniel-Constantin Mierla [mailto:miconda at gmail.com]
>         *Sent:* 19 January 2016 23:26
>         *To:* Phil Lavin <phil.lavin at synety.com
>         <mailto:phil.lavin at synety.com>>; Kamailio (SER) - Users
>         Mailing List <sr-users at lists.sip-router.org
>         <mailto:sr-users at lists.sip-router.org>>
>         *Subject:* Re: [SR-Users] Strange PUA Behaviour
>
>          
>
>         Can you get a pcap for a case with the new config? Being
>         traveling, but maybe I get a chance to look at it soon.
>
>         Reading quickly on some docs, I noticed that subs_db_mode=3
>         and notifier_proceses=0 rise a conflict:
>
>         http://www.kamailio.org/docs/modules/devel/modules/presence.html#presence.p.notifier_processes
>
>         Can you try with subs_db_mode=0 and see if works different?
>
>         Cheers,
>         Daniel
>
>         On 19/01/16 20:35, Phil Lavin wrote:
>
>             Just to follow this up with more recent results. I’ve
>             simplified things and have been testing calling from a
>             Kamailio registered UA to a phone on the PSTN. There’s
>             only 1 dialog in Kamailio for this and the results are
>             just as strange. BLF works for a while and then breaks. In
>             this particular case, the light does not go off after the
>             call.
>
>              
>
>             I have set subs_db_mode to 3 (new config below) and I can
>             consistently reproduce the BLF light not turning off after
>             the call has ended (the phone does not get sent a
>             terminate). As soon as I truncate pua and presentity
>             tables in the DB, the next call works fine.
>
>              
>
>             modparam("presence", "subs_db_mode", 3)
>
>             modparam("presence", "notifier_processes", 0)
>
>             modparam("presence", "db_url", DBURL)
>
>             modparam("presence", "send_fast_notify", 0)
>
>             modparam("presence", "db_update_period", 20)
>
>             modparam("presence_xml", "db_url", DBURL)
>
>             modparam("presence_xml", "force_active", 1)
>
>             modparam("presence_dialoginfo", "force_single_dialog", 1)
>
>             modparam("presence_dialoginfo", "force_dummy_dialog", 1)
>
>             modparam("pua", "db_url", DBURL)
>
>             modparam("pua", "db_mode", 2)
>
>             modparam("pua", "update_period", 20)
>
>             modparam("pua_dialoginfo", "send_publish_flag", FLT_DLGINFO)
>
>             modparam("pua_dialoginfo", "override_lifetime", 124)
>
>              
>
>             Before I truncate, the tables both a good number of rows
>             in each (70ish).
>
>              
>
>             Is it that they’re not being correctly cleaned up here?
>
>              
>
>              
>
>             Thanks
>
>              
>
>             Phil
>
>              
>
>             *From:*sr-users
>             [mailto:sr-users-bounces at lists.sip-router.org] *On Behalf
>             Of *Phil Lavin
>             *Sent:* 19 January 2016 18:11
>             *To:* miconda at gmail.com <mailto:miconda at gmail.com>;
>             Kamailio (SER) - Users Mailing List
>             <sr-users at lists.sip-router.org>
>             <mailto:sr-users at lists.sip-router.org>
>             *Subject:* Re: [SR-Users] Strange PUA Behaviour
>
>              
>
>             Below is the relevant presence/pua stuff. Let me know if I
>             should be examining other tables.
>
>              
>
>             When the call ends, there are no dialogs remaining in the
>             dialog table. A few things do hang around in the
>             presentity and pua tables for a short period of time.
>
>              
>
>             Regarding CLI changing, it does seem to do so. When the
>             call is routed onto the billing platform, the CLI is
>             changed to the local “extension” (e.g. 9989) on the leg
>             that comes back to Kamailio, destined for the callee.
>
>              
>
>             Regarding only advertising the leg going to the callee,
>             not all calls will terminate on a UA registered against
>             Kamailio (e.g. calls from a Kamailio registered UA to the
>             PSTN). The more I think about it, determining the correct
>             leg in all scenarios will be difficult.
>
>          
>
>         -- 
>
>         Daniel-Constantin Mierla
>
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>      
>
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