[SR-Users] Kamailio IMS_QOS

José Seabra joseseabra4 at gmail.com
Thu Apr 28 12:44:27 CEST 2016


Hi Jason,
I understood it, the issue here is that i was trying to use ims_qos module
in a non IMS network and my frontend component isn't the Kamailio server.

But now I understood that  the requirement is having this component in the
frontend of network in order to have the correct information from UE.

Once again, thank you all to make it more clear to me.

BR
José

2016-04-28 10:16 GMT+01:00 Jason Penton <jason.penton at smilecoms.com>:

> Hi José
>
> Ivailo is correct here, you need to have p-cscf *be* the SBC or at least
> sit in front of one if it is not the SBC. If not you will effectively be
> sending "junk" to the PCRF and it will be impossible for it to signal the
> correct setup of bearers between UE and P-CSCF/SBC.
>
> Then, re. youre questions around usrloc. The current pre-requisites of
> binding to usrloc and dialog are for the following reasons:
>
> 1. if signalling bearer is removed by network, typically QCI 5 bearer (for
> whatever reason) viz ASR - then:
> a) tear down all active calls related to contact (requires dialog_ng
> binding)
> b) unregister contact (network initiated) (requires usrloc binding)
>
> 2. if media bearer is removed by network (typically QCI 1 and / or 2) -
> then:
> a) terminate active call (requires dialog_ng binding)
>
> So, for ims_qos to correctly do what it is meant to do, it *has* to bind
> to the ims_usrloc... I hope this helps make sense of it all a little more
>
> Cheers
> Jason
>
> On Thu, Apr 28, 2016 at 12:22 AM, Ivailo Dobrev <ivailod at telera.eu> wrote:
>
>> Hi Jose,
>>
>> Framed IP or some king of hashing over IP/identitiy/APN... is used from
>> PCRF for session binding. If I understand question right the short answer
>> is that reservation from PCRF is made by Media-Component-Description not by
>> framed IP address. In your architecture if Kamailio instance that serves Rx
>> do not have real UE IP address (and real SDP media addresses) it cannot
>> send proper info to PCRF. You should put Kamailio in front of SBC...
>>
>> BR,
>> Ivo
>>
>>
>> On 04/28/2016 12:28 AM, José Seabra wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>> Updating my last email, I noticed that the AVP framed_ip_address is also
>> containing the IP address of SDP C field, so in my case that I have a SBC
>> in front of my Kamailio doing NAT, the SDP address will be the IP of the
>> SBC, in order that PCRF will try reserve bandwidth in the SBC.
>>
>> What we can do in these cases?
>>
>> Thank you for your support
>> BR
>>
>> 2016-04-27 10:52 GMT+01:00 José Seabra <joseseabra4 at gmail.com>:
>>
>>> Hi Jason,
>>> What could be the impact of using both modules (usrloc and
>>> ims_usrloc_pcscf)?
>>>
>>> One of the impacts that I can see is the Shared memory, it will consume
>>> more shared memory because  will save the AOR twice in memory, one in
>>> usrloc and the other in ims_usrloc_pcscf, is that right?
>>>
>>> Another Doubt that I have:
>>>
>>> At this moment I'm only using  the function rx_aar, (I'm not using
>>> ims_qos with register sip messages), and when kamailio sends an AAR to
>>> PCRF, the AVP "Flow-Description" contains the IP address of received host,
>>> that is a kamailio server acting as loadbalancer, not the Terminal IP
>>> address.
>>>
>>> So I'm obliged to use RX  on registrar messages in order to have the AOR
>>> of the SIP Terminal on the AVP "Flow-Description"? Or can I manipulate it
>>> in an easy way?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Anyway I'm facing an issue when PCRF is sending an Abort-Session Request
>>> after the call is established, Kamailio stops working with the following
>>> Log messages:
>>>
>>>
>>> 36(21757) DEBUG: cdp [receiver.c:1083]: receive_message():
>>> receive_message(): [alb-pcrf.rx.example.com] Recv msg 274
>>> 36(21757) DEBUG: cdp [peerstatemachine.c:92]: sm_process():
>>> sm_process(): Peer alb-pcrf.rx.example.com     State I_Open     Event
>>> I_Rcv_Message
>>> 36(21757) DEBUG: cdp [session.c:305]: cdp_get_session(): called get
>>> session with id proxy1.sw.example.com;2463925226;1 and hash 39
>>> 36(21757) DEBUG: cdp [session.c:308]: cdp_get_session(): looking for |
>>> proxy1.sw.example.com;2463925226;1| in |proxy1.sw.example.com
>>> ;2463925226;1|
>>> 36(21757) DEBUG: ims_qos [mod.c:301]: callback_for_cdp_session():
>>> callback_for_cdp session(): called with event 5 and session id [
>>> proxy1.sw.example.com;2463925226;1]
>>> 36(21757) DEBUG: ims_qos [cdpeventprocessor.c:113]: new_cdp_cb_event():
>>> Creating new event for rx session [proxy1.sw.example.com;2463925226;1]
>>> 36(21757) INFO: cdp [authstatemachine.c:271]:
>>> auth_client_statefull_sm_process(): after callback of event 5
>>> 36(21757) INFO: cdp [authstatemachine.c:733]: Send_ASA(): Send_ASA():
>>> sending ASA
>>> 36(21757) INFO: cdp [authstatemachine.c:758]: Send_ASA(): sending ASA to
>>> peer alb-pcrf
>>> 36(21757) DEBUG: cdp [diameter_msg.c:83]: AAABuildMsgBuffer():
>>> AAABuildMsgBuffer(): len=172
>>> 39(21770) DEBUG: ims_qos [cdpeventprocessor.c:209]:
>>> cdp_cb_event_process(): processing event [5]
>>> 39(21770) DEBUG: ims_qos [cdpeventprocessor.c:221]:
>>> cdp_cb_event_process(): Received notification of ASR from transport plane
>>> or CDP timeout for CDP session with Rx session ID: [
>>> proxy1.sw.example.com;2463925226;1] and associated contact [] and
>>> domain []
>>> 39(21770) DEBUG: ims_qos [cdpeventprocessor.c:228]:
>>> cdp_cb_event_process(): This is a media bearer session session39(21770)
>>> DEBUG: ims_qos [cdpeventprocessor.c:316]: free_cdp_cb_event(): Freeing cdpb
>>> CB event structure
>>> 39(21770) DEBUG: ims_qos [cdpeventprocessor.c:318]: free_cdp_cb_event():
>>> about to free string from cdp CB event [proxy1.sw.example.com
>>> ;2463925226;1]
>>>  0(21693) ALERT: <core> [main.c:739]: handle_sigs(): child process 21757
>>> exited by a signal 11
>>>  0(21693) ALERT: <core> [main.c:742]: handle_sigs(): core was not
>>> generated
>>>  0(21693) INFO: <core> [main.c:754]: handle_sigs(): terminating due to
>>> SIGCHLD
>>>  0(21693) DEBUG: <core> [main.c:756]: handle_sigs(): terminating due to
>>> SIGCHLD
>>> 69(21816) INFO: <core> [main.c:809]: sig_usr(): signal 15 received
>>> .
>>> .
>>> .
>>>
>>>
>>> Thank you
>>>
>>> Best Regards
>>> José Seabra
>>>
>>>
>>> 2016-04-25 13:27 GMT+01:00 Jason Penton < <jason.penton at smilecoms.com>
>>> jason.penton at smilecoms.com>:
>>>
>>>> Hi José,
>>>>
>>>> Unfortunately you have to use the ims_usrloc_pcscf as there are extra
>>>> extra data fields that are required in the case of IMS registrations.
>>>> Perhaps what you can do is run with both usrloc backends. I know that we
>>>> made the restriction that you could only use one but I as soon as I get a
>>>> chance I will see if it's possible for ims modules to bind specifically to
>>>> the ims_usrloc_* module as well as allow you to run "other" code that bind
>>>> to other usrloc backends.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers
>>>> Jason
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Apr 24, 2016 at 11:30 PM, José Seabra < <joseseabra4 at gmail.com>
>>>> joseseabra4 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>> Once again, thank you all for the Help.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have one last question, can I use the function Rx_AAR_Register
>>>>> without save the  usr location information on ims_usrloc_pcscf? that
>>>>> is because  I'm already using the usrloc module with dmq_usrloc.
>>>>>
>>>>> I know that ims_usrloc_pcscf is a dependency of ims_qos, but the doubt
>>>>> here is if I don't use the ims_registrar_pcscf, the usrloc_pcscf
>>>>> won't be used to store usr location? And the ims_qos will works correctly?
>>>>>
>>>>> BR
>>>>> José Seabra
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 2016-04-22 23:46 GMT+01:00 Ivailo Dobrev < <ivailod at telera.eu>
>>>>> ivailod at telera.eu>:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Jason,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It is always better when code "guru" shares his opinion :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers gents !
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 04/23/2016 01:35 AM, Jason Penton wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi gents,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> we do not support the preliminary service information. So for now you
>>>>>> can only call Rx_AAR when you have SDP in the replies. So for VoLTE
>>>>>> (preconditions), for example you can call on 183 SP whilst using plain SIP
>>>>>> you will have to call on the first reply you get that has SDP (either 183SP
>>>>>> or 200OK).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> HTH
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>> Jason
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Apr 22, 2016 at 11:11 PM, Ivailo Dobrev < <ivailod at telera.eu>
>>>>>> ivailod at telera.eu> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yes you send both direction media information to the PCRF but when
>>>>>>> reply is received in precondition state.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 04/23/2016 12:03 AM, José Seabra wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hello Ivailo and Franz,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thank you for your clarifications.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Well sending an AAR when receive a reply makes all sense, but
>>>>>>> ims_qos must send the SDP information from the Initial Invite and also from
>>>>>>> 183 ringing or 200Ok,  Am I correct?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Because PCRF needs to know the session parameters from Initial
>>>>>>> Initial INVITE and the reply to it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The PCRF is a proprietary solution.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thank you
>>>>>>> BR
>>>>>>> José Seabra
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2016-04-22 21:54 GMT+01:00 Ivailo Dobrev < <ivailod at telera.eu>
>>>>>>> ivailod at telera.eu>:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi Franz,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> There no real OS PCRF. Yota/Telexir use to had some free VM image
>>>>>>>> that is OK for test. You can search about FreePCRF. It is a little tricky
>>>>>>>> to configure it but ... I made for my tests a really dummy one based on
>>>>>>>> FreeDIAMETER. Generally speaking PCRF is the "brain" of the network and you
>>>>>>>> should understand and design things well there. I have experience also w/
>>>>>>>> commercial PCRFs and there is no real answer yes this is a right way of
>>>>>>>> making something.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Ivo
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 04/22/2016 11:09 PM, Franz Edler wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi José,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> in principle it is possible to send an AAR after receiving the
>>>>>>>> request. In this case the Service-Info-Status AVP is set to PRELIMINARY
>>>>>>>> SERVICE INFORMATION.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> More efficient is it to wait until SDP answer is received and then
>>>>>>>> the Service-Info-Status AVP is set to FINAL_SERVICE_INFORMATION.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I don’t know if both methods are covered in ims_qos module.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> BTW: which PCRF are you using? Is there some open source PCRF
>>>>>>>> available?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> BR
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Franz
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *From:* sr-users [ <sr-users-bounces at lists.sip-router.org>
>>>>>>>> mailto:sr-users-bounces at lists.sip-router.org
>>>>>>>> <sr-users-bounces at lists.sip-router.org>] *On Behalf Of *José Seabra
>>>>>>>> *Sent:* Friday, April 22, 2016 3:58 PM
>>>>>>>> *To:* Kamailio (SER) - Users Mailing List
>>>>>>>> <sr-users at lists.sip-router.org><sr-users at lists.sip-router.org>
>>>>>>>> <sr-users at lists.sip-router.org>
>>>>>>>> *Subject:* [SR-Users] Kamailio IMS_QOS
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hello There,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'm trying using the ims_qos module with PCRF for QOS, but I'm
>>>>>>>> facing some issues.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> When kamailio receives an initial invite (originator), it will
>>>>>>>> execute the function - "Rx_AAR("ORIG_SESSION_AAR","orig","",-1)", but the
>>>>>>>> PCRF is not contacted and i see the following messages:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  5(12153) DEBUG: <script>: Diameter: Orig authorizing media via Rx
>>>>>>>>  5(12153) DEBUG: ims_qos [mod.c:609]: w_rx_aar(): Looking for route
>>>>>>>> block [ORIG_SESSION_AAR]
>>>>>>>>  5(12153) DEBUG: ims_qos [mod.c:621]: w_rx_aar(): Rx AAR called
>>>>>>>>  5(12153) DEBUG: ims_qos [mod.c:1345]: create_return_code():
>>>>>>>> Creating return code of [-2] for aar_return_code
>>>>>>>>  5(12153) DEBUG: ims_qos [mod.c:1354]: create_return_code():
>>>>>>>> created AVP successfully : [aar_return_code]
>>>>>>>>  5(12153) DEBUG: ims_qos [mod.c:627]: w_rx_aar(): Can't do AAR for
>>>>>>>> call session in request.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Why kamailio says  that I  Can't do AAR for call session in
>>>>>>>> request?  I have looked into source code and I found that the condition
>>>>>>>> that is blocking the communication with PCRF is:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> //We don't ever do AAR on request for calling scenario...
>>>>>>>>     if (msg->first_line.type != SIP_REPLY) {
>>>>>>>>         LM_DBG("Can't do AAR for call session in request\n");
>>>>>>>>         return result;
>>>>>>>>     }
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Anyone can help me understand why it is happening? why it can't
>>>>>>>> proceed if isn't a reply?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thank you for your support
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> BR
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> José Seabra
>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Cumprimentos
>>>>>>> José Seabra
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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