[Serusers] Call Forward Billing

Wed Aug 9 09:21:28 CEST 2006

Hello Rosa,

 Please post a *B2BUA debug log and Asterisk 'sip debug' somewhere on
 pastebin (http://pastebin.ca ?)
 And write to *B2BUA maillist if you have a problems with *B2BUA
 configuration.

Wednesday, August 9, 2006 12:06:14 AM, you wrote:

RDS> Hi again, Jiri.
RDS> I had to leave this for a while, but I'm back.

RDS> I'm trying to do the original idea: 
RDS> A calls B, B forwards to C. The call is A-C and the billing is B-C.
RDS> In SER I added B in the Diversion header of the SIP message and this is forwarded to *b2bua.
RDS> In *b2bua I change the Radius Message to charge B and change the
RDS> SIP message to make the call from A to C, just like you told me.

RDS> Everything seems to be OK: C phone rings, but....the call can't
RDS> be established, the call hangs up when C answers.
RDS> It seems that something is missing after the call is answered...
RDS> Can you please give me some help?
RDS> Best regards
RDS> Rosa.

RDS> ----------------------------------------
>> Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2006 16:05:59 +0200
>> To: rosadesantis at hotmail.com; serusers at lists.iptel.org
>> From: jiri at iptel.org
>> Subject: RE: Re: [Serusers] Call Forward Billing
>> 
>> At 15:45 11/07/2006, Rosa De Santis wrote:
>> >Thanks Jiri and Greger for your answers.
>> >
>> >I just wanted to make it simple, because I'm using a third party billing system.
>> >I'm using SER + Asterisk b2bua. My original idea was to add a Diversion header to the sip message in SER, and to modify the Radius message in Asterisk
>> b2bua when i find that diversion header, to give the Radius message ready and modified to the billing system, so they don't have to make any additional 
>> process for the call forward case.
>> 
>> If that's all you need then it is as easy as putting the proper identity in AVP, printing the AVP
>> in diversion header, and integrating all pieces together.
>> 
>> -jiri
>> 
>> 
>> >Please, is this possible? any ideas?
>> >Thanks again.
>> >
>> >Rosa.
>> >
>> >-----------------------------------------------
>> >> Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2006 08:18:59 +0200
>> >> From: greger at teigre.com
>> >> To: jiri at iptel.org
>> >> CC: rosadesantis at hotmail.com; serusers at lists.iptel.org
>> >> Subject: Re: [Serusers] Call Forward Billing
>> >> 
>> >> Just to expand on "special-casing": Getting user actions into $ can be very tricky and is very dependent on your billing system. I.e. the capabilities of the type of invoice records that can be created (and manipulated; rating, VAT, no VAT, customer discounts, volume discounts, time of day etc etc). You normally have to start there and trace back: What should the normalized CDRs look like for the billing system to import and rate them correctly. Then you step backwards again: Your accounting records (start/stop), what should they look like. The tool taking start/stop records must be capable of interpreting the records and create normalized CDRs.  If you gather accounting records from multiple sources (PSTN GWs, routers etc), it may make sense to consolidate the record collection and normalization (i.e. adapt your accounting records to be similar across sources so you simplify the normalization)-
>> >>     Puh! This leads us to Jiri's comment: Once you know what you need, you can use additional AVPs/flags in acc table.
>> >> g-)
>> >> PS! In the PSTN world, the forwarding party/C-number is often added in a third column in the records and one set of start/stop will exist for each call leg. If present, the C-number will be used for charging.
>> >> Jiri Kuthan wrote:
>> >> It is a configuration thing.  It appears a misconception to me to build special-casing in SER. acc module can store additional AVPs or flags in acc table. These can indicate reverse charging at your convenience, to be processed by your favorite CDR postprocesssing tool.  Moreover, if done well, all the authentication-authorization-accounting process can be, if configured properly, brought to the same least common denominator, which is AVP -- you authenticate someone, check if his ACLs expressed as an AVP permit a call (e.g., 'international'),  account it (possibly with additional AVPs/flags providing additional hints for how to interpret the CDR).  -jiri  At 19:49 10/07/2006, Rosa De Santis wrote:
>> >> Thanks for your answer. And this functionality is not present in SER ?  Rosa.   -----------------------------------------------
>> >> Date: Sat, 8 Jul 2006 00:20:44 -0700 From: t_maron_lists at yahoo.com Subject: Re: [Serusers] Call Forward Billing To: rosadesantis at hotmail.com  If you are locked by this, you can import a patch from openser, they have it for some time, see: http://openser.org/docs/modules/1.1.x/acc.html#MULTI-CALL-LEGS T. On 07/07/06 18:46, Rosa De Santis wrote: Hello all. Please, can somebody help about changing the billing when making call forward ? I'm trying to change the billed user when A calls B, B forwards to C (C is PSTN). I want to charge the call to B. I'm using Ser+Asterisk B2BUA. Any idea, please? Thanks Rosa. _________________________________________________________________ Be one of the first to try Windows Live Mail. http://ideas.live.com/programpage.aspx?versionId=5d21c51a-b161-4314-9b0e-4911fb2b2e6d_______________________________________________ Serusers mailing  list Serusers at lists.iptel.org http://lists.iptel.org/mailman/listinfo/serusers ----------------------------------------------- Talk is cheap. Use Yahoo! Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min.
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