[Serusers] VoIp Billing Solution SIP server compatible!!!

[Deepak Singhal]

I would be willing to contribute if someone can start a project on open
source billing for SER. 
 
Deepak Singhal

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From: serusers-bounces at iptel.org [mailto:serusers-bounces at lists.iptel.org] On
Behalf Of Manoj Ghag
Sent: Monday, May 23, 2005 12:12 PM
To: serusers at lists.iptel.org; iqbal at gigo.co.uk
Subject: Re: [Serusers] VoIp Billing Solution SIP server compatible!!!



hi, all
   Can't we go for development of Basic Billing solution in OPEN Source with
SER only .. I mean we can make Billing Model ready and can go ahead with the
same.
Does anyone find any issue in same ... ? I think if we can do this .. it
will be very helpful for many people .... Please let me know
 
 
Regards
Manoj Ghag 
 
 
 
 
 

Iqbal <iqbal at gigo.co.uk> wrote:


	Hi
	
	The reason why no one is really discussing much about billing here
as
	open source is that most have rolled there own.
	
	serweb is a good starting point, but it is not a rating engine, it
will
	just work out how long the call is.
	
	1. Now when you have this length of call you need to work out how
much
	its cost you, and how much it cost the end user...
	
	2. For this you need to create a rates table or database
	
	3. What I have is a prefix table which has 1800+ prefixes each one
of
	these is bound to a gateway, and hence can be routed out
differently,
	when required
	
	4. I then have a cost table, this is what my buying price is
	
	5. I then have a selling price table
	
	6. For resellers we are building a drill down structure where they
have
	there buying price and selling price
	
	7. Now you need a rating structure
	
	8. You may have a different price based on time of day and day of
week
	etc etc
	
	9. So now you have price per prefix, based on time of day and day of
week
	
	10. You see when call is made you do the maths and work out the cost
to
	you , and cost to customers, if the former is lesser than the latter
ur
	making money :-), at a gross level, if not, bad business model :-)
	
	12. Different types of cutomers may get charged differently, i.e
large
	corporates should always pay more, hence your price may also vary
based
	on customer_type
	
	13. Now if its postpaid you need to also do a bill run once a month,
	convert to pdf, and email out, just to make things easy, and then
link
	to your legacy accounting system..
	
	So you see everyone will have something slightly different, but I
hope
	the above steps may help
	
	Iqbal
	
	On 5/21/2005, "Ollie Gejevski" wrote:
	
	>Hey guys,
	>I notice qu ite a few people are looking for a Billing solution.
Please
	>contact me as I can help.  We already have few companies from this
board use
	>our solution with great success.    We are Cisco as well as SIP
server  (
	>SER, SNOM ) compatible. Check out our website HYPERLINK
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	>the best
	> 
	>Ollie
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