[Serusers] Re: First tests with nathelper

Maxim Sobolev sobomax at FreeBSD.org
Thu May 15 01:45:49 CEST 2003


We have solved this issue by using symmetric rtp proxy integrated with 
nathelper module. We have not released it yet, but planning to do it in 
the nearest future. Stay tuned.

-Maxim

Ricardo Villa wrote:
> Hi Maxim,
> 
> I tried out the nathelper module and it works as described.  It certainly
> solves the problem of getting Natted ATAs to send SIP messages between each
> other.  Unfortunately I do not see how one can solve the problem of the
> Natted RTP stream.  For example, an ATA behind a NAT sends an INVITE message
> (to a UA that is out in the internet) saying that its audio port is 20000.
> Once the call is established (thanks to the nathelper module), the ATA
> starts generating the audio stream with source port 20000 but once it passes
> through the NAT the source port gets changed to some random number.  The
> remote user agent is trying to send its stream to port 20000 but the NAT
> drops it because it is not valid in its NAT table.
> 
> How have you solved this issue?
> 
> Thanks,
> Ricardo
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Maxim Sobolev" <sobomax at portaone.com>
> To: <jaime at umtstrial.co.uk>
> Cc: <serdev at lists.iptel.org>; <serusers at lists.iptel.org>
> Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2003 5:18 AM
> Subject: [Serusers] Re: First tests with nathelper
> 
> 
> 
>>I've just committed into the cvs the autopinging feature useful to
>>keep NAT bindings alive. If possible, please test and let me know
>>then. Basically, everything you need to do is to recompile/reinstall
>>ser and all modules and add the following into your config:
>>
>>modparam("nathelper", "natping_interval", N)
>>
>>Where N is some non-zero interval in seconds (usually 15-30 should
>>be OK).
>>
>>Thanks!
>>
>>-Maxim
>>
>>On Tue, Apr 29, 2003 at 09:38:44PM +0100, jaime at umtstrial.co.uk wrote:
>>
>>>Hello Maxim,
>>>
>>>I have been trying your module on one server with a customised
>>>configuration, very similar to the default one in nathelper.cfg.
>>
> Actually,
> 
>>>I'm trying to connect through a NAT to a server running SER with the
>>>nathelper module. The overall configuration looks like this:
>>>
>>>UA1 --- NAT --- SER (proxy and registrar)
>>>UA2  |
>>>
>>>UA1 and UA2 must traverse a NAT in order to reach SER. The NAT does not
>>>have port forwarding whatsoever.
>>>
>>>I was trying to see what happens to REGISTER, SUBSCRIBE, MESSAGE and
>>>INVITE messages. The nathelper adds rport and received to the Via field,
>>>so any response from the server gets routed correctly to the appropriate
>>>destination (that is, the NAT external interface).
>>>
>>>REGISTER's Contact is stored at registration and the 200 OK reaches the
>>>initiating client through the NAT.
>>>
>>>However, any other SIP message involving a database lookup into
>>
> "location"
> 
>>>will try to relay the message to the natted client, which is not
>>
> reachable
> 
>>>from the SER proxy (see diagram above). I think this could work if in
>>>location table you stored the "received" and "rport" values instead of
>>
> the
> 
>>>"Contact" field received when regitering (if that does not go against
>>>standards...). Then, just keep alive the NAT binding somehow (I think
>>
> you
> 
>>>where mentioning it in a previous email).
>>>
>>>Does this sound resonable? Making this scenario work would allow people
>>
> at
> 
>>>home with simple NAT's to use a public proxy (like Iptel's) and its
>>>services (Instant Messaging and Presence mainly)...
>>>
>>>Jaime
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
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