[Serusers] multiple registration on one user login

Jan Janak jan at iptel.org
Tue Mar 11 12:30:10 CET 2003


Hello,

do you still need such a restriction ?

   Jan.

On 10-03 11:12, Ng, Soo Sim wrote:
> Thanks to all giving your thought and advice.
> 
> SSng
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jiri Kuthan [mailto:jiri at iptel.org]
> Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 6:49 AM
> To: Ng, Soo Sim; serusers at lists.iptel.org
> Subject: RE: [Serusers] multiple registration on one user login
> 
> 
> Hello,
> 
> I fear that such a case can't be avoided with allowing only
> a single registration. If I steal your phone away from your
> desk, you will not register with it anymore, but I will and
> we will have exactly one valid registration. Leaving SIP 
> phones  with hard-wired passwords on your desk has simply the 
> same potential as leaving your credit-card or cell-phone there.
> 
> What can be done about fraud?
> 
> User education -- don't leave your money and phone unattended.
> Hotline -- report stolen phones to lock the account.
> PIN Lock -- use phones which can log-off and log-on (I'm not aware
>   of any now -- only 3com used to do that)
> 
> -Jiri
> 
> ps -- ability to move is a feature. I know people who are very glad 
> to use Vonage's US phone number and move with their ATAs and the
> US phone number around in Europe.
> 
> At 11:37 PM 3/5/2003, Ng, Soo Sim wrote:
> >Jiri,
> >
> >Scenario is providing IP Telephony to the household.
> >I am more concern about the security of the Hardphone. I am thinking of auto-provisioned the hardphone (eg C7960, ATA186) without subsriber intervention. What the subscriber know is their phone # (Just like legacy phone system).
> >
> >Since the Hardphone is 'hard-coded', the phone can move round the vicinity of the redisential area and still able to make a call. Potentially this will lead to abuse, as someone may take the phone to a different location when owner is not around and make a 'free' call, return back the phone and the billing still charge the original subsriber.
> >
> >Any other suggestion to counter this issue is much appreacited.
> >
> >SSng 
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Jiri Kuthan [mailto:jiri at iptel.org]
> >Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 12:18 AM
> >To: Ng, Soo Sim; serusers at lists.iptel.org
> >Subject: Re: [Serusers] multiple registration on one user login
> >
> >
> >At 03:08 PM 3/4/2003, Ng, Soo Sim wrote:
> >>I have such requirements. In providing sip-based residential ip telephony, I would like to restrict each home subsriber is only allowed to register one UA per account. This would make easy for billing purposes and for security reasons.
> >>
> >>Is there a way to achieve this requirement with SER?
> >
> >If that is your desparate wish, it is little overhead to make you happy.
> >I'm still not sure though, it is a useful thing.
> >
> >Maybe an operator can make more revennues if my wife can accept calls at 
> >any phone in my building and initiate calls in parallel with my doughter.
> >
> >What are exactly the billing/security reasons here?
> >
> >-Jiri 
> 
> --
> Jiri Kuthan            http://iptel.org/~jiri/ 
> 
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