[sr-dev] [SR-Users] RFC: updates to some core functions

Wed Dec 19 13:41:20 CET 2018

“Kamailio - the leading non-sip and sip server"

Naahhh. Doesn’t work.

/Kamailio Marketing Dept. ;-)

> On 19 Dec 2018, at 13:31, Carsten Bock <carsten at ng-voice.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> given the fact, that we do a lot of "non-sip" related stuff with Kamailio (we are using Kamailio as a Diameter HSS, Diameter Charging-Server (OCS), Diameter Routing-Agent (DRA)), I would also vote for number (2):
> 
> >     2) remove the function export from the core and export one with the same
> >     name from the corex module
> 
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> Am Mi., 19. Dez. 2018 um 12:55 Uhr schrieb YAS0 CANER <caner_yaso at hotmail.com <mailto:caner_yaso at hotmail.com>>:
> TmEXIT , kEXIT and corEXIT is failed 😊
> From: sr-users <sr-users-bounces at lists.kamailio.org <mailto:sr-users-bounces at lists.kamailio.org>> on behalf of Olle E. Johansson <oej at edvina.net <mailto:oej at edvina.net>>
> Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2018 2:38 PM
> To: Daniel-Constantin Mierla
> Cc: Kamailio (SER) - Development Mailing List; Kamailio (SER) - Users Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [SR-Users] [sr-dev] RFC: updates to some core functions
>  
> 
> 
> > On 19 Dec 2018, at 12:26, Daniel-Constantin Mierla <miconda at gmail.com <mailto:miconda at gmail.com>> wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > On 19.12.18 09:47, Olle E. Johansson wrote:
> >> 
> >>> On 19 Dec 2018, at 09:41, Daniel-Constantin Mierla <miconda at gmail.com <mailto:miconda at gmail.com>> wrote:
> >>> 
> >>> corex module was added to hold the functions that otherwise would be
> >>> more or less "in the core", like those that were updated to support
> >>> variables in the parameters, so this is the one to take the place of
> >>> core in regard to exporting functions.
> >>> 
> >>> tmx was added because tm module became very big, but also to try to
> >>> separate a bit between transaction management code and some functions in
> >>> top of it, in the way that tmx can work only with exported api by tm, so
> >>> if one adds a function there doesn't get access to all internals of
> >>> transaction and it is safer not to mess up things there. It is more or
> >>> less like usrloc and registrar, usrloc does internal management of
> >>> location records, registrar is the interface to configuration file (but
> >>> there are other modules on top of usrloc, like pua_usrloc, dmq_usrloc, ...).
> >>> 
> >>> kex is the one that collected some functions that use to be in kamailio
> >>> (or better said openser at that time) but not in ser during 2005-2008
> >>> and can be a module that be analyzed to see if can be merged into other
> >>> modules. A big chunk of it used to be related to MI commands, but as we
> >>> got rid of MI, might be easier now to split parts of it and relocate.
> >>> 
> >> Ok, so removing kex is a good first step for the coming release.
> >> 
> >> It’s really hard explaining TMX and TM for new Kamailians.
> > 
> > We can add a note at the top of docs for each of these modules to refer
> > to the other.
> > 
> > On the other hand, I do not like to have a huge module. It is not
> > suitable for small embedded systems. Also, there are other modules using
> > the tm api, so it is a common approach. The tmx is exporting mostly
> > functions at higher level of transaction interaction, one can build a
> > transaction stateful sip routing without it, only using tm.
> > 
> Damn it. My campaign for exit of the x modules just died. Sad story.
> 
> Thanks for all the responses!
> 
> /O
> > Cheers,
> > Daniel
> > 
> >> 
> >> /O :-)
> >> 
> >>> Cheers,
> >>> Daniel
> >>> 
> >>> On 19.12.18 09:25, Olle E. Johansson wrote:
> >>>> Going back one step, are there any reasons to keep tmx, kex and corex modules at all?
> >>>> 
> >>>> At this point in the project I think many of the functions should be merged into 
> >>>> the main modules and core. 
> >>>> 
> >>>> If I remember correctly, they exist because of a multi-brand history that is not
> >>>> really the case any more.
> >>>> 
> >>>> /O
> >>>> “The campaign to remove Kamailio extensions to Kamailio”
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>>> On 19 Dec 2018, at 09:11, Henning Westerholt <hw at kamailio.org <mailto:hw at kamailio.org>> wrote:
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> Am Mittwoch, 19. Dezember 2018, 09:03:26 CET schrieb Sergey Safarov:
> >>>>>> I prefer second way. Without any duplication.
> >>>>>> For old configs branches 4.4, 5.0, 5.1 is always available.
> >>>>> Hello,
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> I would prefer also the second way, for the same reason: less duplicated 
> >>>>> functions.
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> Best regards,
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> Henning
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> 
> >>>>>> ср, 19 дек. 2018 г. в 10:50, Daniel-Constantin Mierla <miconda at gmail.com <mailto:miconda at gmail.com>>:
> >>>>>>> Hello,
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> it was brought into discussions several times in the past about core
> >>>>>>> functions not accepting variables in the parameters. I think it is time
> >>>>>>> to update them during the 5.3 release development. For few of them, I
> >>>>>>> added in the past some alternative function in the corex module (e.g.,
> >>>>>>> force_send_socket() in core and set_send_socket() in corex module).
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> So, I see two options:
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> 1) add a function with similar name in corex module and same behaviour
> >>>>>>> like the one from core
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> 2) remove the function export from the core and export one with the same
> >>>>>>> name from the corex module
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> First one will ensure that configs using the functions right now keep
> >>>>>>> working without any update.
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> The second one will be better in long term from the point of
> >>>>>>> documentation (no duplicated docs), but there might be few cases that
> >>>>>>> would require updates in the config -- iirc, there are some functions
> >>>>>>> that can get special tokens in the parameters (like forward(uri:host,
> >>>>>>> uri:port)), they will get an equivalent with variables, but old config
> >>>>>>> will not be compatible.
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> Obviously the reason for this email is to ask the developers and users
> >>>>>>> what would be the preferred way from own point of view.
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> Cheers,
> >>>>>>> Daniel
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