[Kamailio-Devel] [Kamailio-Users] As a board member

[David Villasmil]

In any case, both Bodgan and Daniel SHOULD understand that this project's
issues are more important than their own personals issues. They should
behave like the prefessionals they are and overcome their private issues
when talking project's issues.

On Fri, Aug 8, 2008 at 12:34 PM, Andreas Granig <agranig at sipwise.com> wrote:

> David,
>
> And that's exactly the point. That's why the board is there to decide on
> such issues, in my opinion.
>
> But... Bogdan refused to comply with this decision (for whatever reason),
> and now Adrian accuses Henning to enforce things and to abuse his board
> position (or at least that's what one can read from the mailing lists). So
> there's something really wrong with the board, i guess.
>
> Andreas
>
> David Villasmil wrote:
>
>> Andreas,
>>
>>     Just have a good look at this:
>>
>>     http://lists.kamailio.org/pipermail/devel/2008-June/014204.html
>> it then moves here:
>>     http://lists.kamailio.org/pipermail/devel/2008-June/014372.html
>> then here:
>>     http://lists.kamailio.org/pipermail/devel/2008-June/014122.html
>> then here:
>>     http://lists.kamailio.org/pipermail/devel/2008-June/014456.html
>>
>> I'd say both sides had their reasons, but one side never gave any
>> explanation for why they were insisting on something that maybe could've
>> been solve without much hassle. But both sides got too heated and this is
>> the result of that -and I must say, a little selffish on both sides-
>>
>> I'm really hoping both sides see their errors here, can work toghether
>> again and do what we're all here to do, make the project move forward.
>>
>> IMO, although it seems like Bodgan has founded reasons to be upset, in the
>> end the local_route made its way into the release, even if it made it as an
>> "experimental feature".
>>
>>
>> Have a good one all,
>>
>> David.
>>
>> P.S.: "Can't we all just get along?" hehe, just kidding
>>
>>
>> That thread is very illustrative.
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 8, 2008 at 11:15 AM, Andreas Granig <agranig at sipwise.com<mailto:
>> agranig at sipwise.com>> wrote:
>>
>>    Guys,
>>
>>    I don't have any insights in what's going on on the board, but isn't
>> the
>>    board supposed to prevent that one single guy can make decisions which
>>    influence the overall project like that?
>>
>>    Aren't you, Adrian, as a board member, supposed to stand up and take
>>    your chance to speak out loud that something is going THAT wrong? And
>> if
>>    you did, and your voice wasn't heard due to this high S/N ratio because
>>    of some discussions about some features or whatever, why didn't anybody
>>    else on the board complain?
>>
>>    I'm just a little bit suspicious about one person pointing fingers at
>>    somebody else on the board, when there are (supposed to be) a couple of
>>    other parties who should represent the project, who didn't really
>>    complain or didn't stand up by now to explain the whole situation that
>>    is going on on the board?
>>
>>    Bogdan complained about being overruled by the board in different kind
>>    of things (from a technical and from a management point of view), and
>>    well, that happens in a project being lead by a couple of parties. But
>>    what I really miss is the other side of the story, like why the
>>    decisions where made as they were made. And the fact, that another
>> board
>>    member puts down his vote like that (demanding that another board
>> member
>>    quits) is not a sign of democracy. So maybe something is really going
>>    wrong on the board?
>>
>>    Just my thoughts?
>>    Andreas
>>
>>    Adrian Georgescu wrote:
>>     > Hello,
>>     >
>>     > Because of sheer incompetence and abuse conduct of one of the
>>    recently
>>     > adopted board members I decided to put my activities as a management
>>     > board member of OpenSER/Kamailio project on hold.
>>     >
>>     > I will be able to resume my activities after the voluntary leave of
>>     > Henning Westerholt.
>>     >
>>     > For those who do not know who I am, I was involved with OpenSER from
>>     > Day 0 of its inception.
>>     >
>>     > Kind regards,
>>     > Adrian
>>     >
>>     >
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