In any case, both Bodgan and Daniel SHOULD understand that this project's issues are more important than their own personals issues. They should behave like the prefessionals they are and overcome their private issues when talking project's issues.

On Fri, Aug 8, 2008 at 12:34 PM, Andreas Granig <agranig@sipwise.com> wrote:
David,

And that's exactly the point. That's why the board is there to decide on such issues, in my opinion.

But... Bogdan refused to comply with this decision (for whatever reason), and now Adrian accuses Henning to enforce things and to abuse his board position (or at least that's what one can read from the mailing lists). So there's something really wrong with the board, i guess.

Andreas

David Villasmil wrote:
Andreas,

    Just have a good look at this:

    http://lists.kamailio.org/pipermail/devel/2008-June/014204.html
it then moves here:
    http://lists.kamailio.org/pipermail/devel/2008-June/014372.html
then here:
    http://lists.kamailio.org/pipermail/devel/2008-June/014122.html
then here:
    http://lists.kamailio.org/pipermail/devel/2008-June/014456.html
   
I'd say both sides had their reasons, but one side never gave any explanation for why they were insisting on something that maybe could've been solve without much hassle. But both sides got too heated and this is the result of that -and I must say, a little selffish on both sides-

I'm really hoping both sides see their errors here, can work toghether again and do what we're all here to do, make the project move forward.

IMO, although it seems like Bodgan has founded reasons to be upset, in the end the local_route made its way into the release, even if it made it as an "experimental feature".


Have a good one all,

David.

P.S.: "Can't we all just get along?" hehe, just kidding


That thread is very illustrative.

On Fri, Aug 8, 2008 at 11:15 AM, Andreas Granig <agranig@sipwise.com <mailto:agranig@sipwise.com>> wrote:

   Guys,

   I don't have any insights in what's going on on the board, but isn't the
   board supposed to prevent that one single guy can make decisions which
   influence the overall project like that?

   Aren't you, Adrian, as a board member, supposed to stand up and take
   your chance to speak out loud that something is going THAT wrong? And if
   you did, and your voice wasn't heard due to this high S/N ratio because
   of some discussions about some features or whatever, why didn't anybody
   else on the board complain?

   I'm just a little bit suspicious about one person pointing fingers at
   somebody else on the board, when there are (supposed to be) a couple of
   other parties who should represent the project, who didn't really
   complain or didn't stand up by now to explain the whole situation that
   is going on on the board?

   Bogdan complained about being overruled by the board in different kind
   of things (from a technical and from a management point of view), and
   well, that happens in a project being lead by a couple of parties. But
   what I really miss is the other side of the story, like why the
   decisions where made as they were made. And the fact, that another board
   member puts down his vote like that (demanding that another board member
   quits) is not a sign of democracy. So maybe something is really going
   wrong on the board?

   Just my thoughts?
   Andreas

   Adrian Georgescu wrote:
    > Hello,
    >
    > Because of sheer incompetence and abuse conduct of one of the
   recently
    > adopted board members I decided to put my activities as a management
    > board member of OpenSER/Kamailio project on hold.
    >
    > I will be able to resume my activities after the voluntary leave of
    > Henning Westerholt.
    >
    > For those who do not know who I am, I was involved with OpenSER from
    > Day 0 of its inception.
    >
    > Kind regards,
    > Adrian
    >
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