Hello,You can access the login forms via https and it is recommended to use https for logging it, as mentioned on the front page of dokuwiki -- I just said that the https vs http does not bring benefits against spammers.
On 4/1/13 9:57 PM, Marius Zbihlei wrote:
Hello,
Comments inline
On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 8:27 PM, Daniel-Constantin Mierla <miconda@gmail.com> wrote:
Not sure how much it will help, as the bots were able to create accounts by solving the captcha. HTTPS is no longer something hard to get in any application. So far so good with the new system, no spammer got that familiar with Kamailio modules :-), but there were few new valid accounts.
On 4/1/13 9:13 PM, Marius Zbihlei wrote:
Some ideas about improving the security of the site:
1. Drop http connections for authentication pages
Well,
I would be very nice for the https://www.kamailio.org to work (at the moment it returns an 200 OK with an empty HTML Page). Also, I consider bad security practice to allow traffic that is uncrypted for login forms, but I agree it has small benefits.It is working fine for me over https, tried both firefox and chrome. I replaced the certificate because the previous one was expired and mentioning openser. CACert is not a default trusted authority anyhow, I choose that instead of another self signed certificate because CACert has some popularity out there in the open source space.
You actually need to fix Firefox -- I struggled yesterday a bit with same situation. The certificate is actually new, generated yesterday and signed by CACert.org. The previous one was selfsigned, from openser times, expired for few years.2. Fix the kamailio.org certificate. At the moment the identity of the domain can't be established as there is no issuer chain provided with it.
From Firefox information page:
I had to try other browsers to check if works, because Firefox was displaying some error. Then I went back to stable channel from beta channel without any success, even removing the old certificate from firefox preference. To solve it, I cleared the cache.
I have tried with both Chrome and Firefox, both normal and Incognito mode. Same error. I believe the problem is with the server.
So, you don't really get to the content via https? Or is just that the browser does not trust it?
Cheers,
Daniel
The server provides the correct certificate (I've downloaded it), but it must provide also an intermediate certificate signed with CaCert RootCA. The client only has the Root CA, so for authentication of the cert the intermediate one is needed.
I guess https://www.globalsign.com/support/install/install_apache.php provides a solution ( Note that the root CA might not make sense)
- Your virtual host section will need to contain the following directives:
SSLCACertificateFile– This will need to point to the appropriate GlobalSign root CA certificate.SSLCertificateChainFile– This will need to point to the appropriate intermediate root CA certificates you previously created in Step 1 above.SSLCertificateFile– This will need to point to the end entity certificate (the one you have called "mydomain.crt")SSLCertificateKeyFile– This will need to point to the private key file associated with your certificate.
Let me know if works for you in the same way.
Cheers,
Daniel
"kamailio.org uses an invalid security certificate.
The certificate is not trusted because no issuer chain was provided.
(Error code: sec_error_unknown_issuer)"
Marius
On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 6:55 PM, Edson - Lists <4lists@gmail.com> wrote:
Just as a side note, I've seem anti-spambots 'captcha systems' (just see, not implemented, nor know about a library that implement it) that use a dual factor approach: one that you see and one that you know.
Indeed very simple: show an image and ask something about it.
Questions can be: type just the letters, type just the numbers, type numbers and letters in pre-defined order (left-to-right,up-down,etc), number of colors, of groups, color on the booton right, etc... The combination are limited on the imagination. And the best: it increment in exponential the way bots have to work.
Does anybody knows a library/system that implement such approach not all of them, but at least part of it?
Edson.
Em 01/04/2013 06:27, Daniel-Constantin Mierla escreveu:
Hello,
as of yesterday, creation of new accounts for Kamailio's wiki site
requires to answer a project related question. Captcha was useless as
spam bots were lately going through it easily, creating accounts in a
rate of approx 50 new registrations per day.
The extra question is asked just after CAPTCHA, see it at:
- https://www.kamailio.org/wiki/start?do=register
Hopefully the questions are simple enough to allow good people to
register and difficult enough for spambots to give up. It is not a very
sophisticated system, let's see if there will be any efforts in reverse
engineering to break in with bots. So far no new spammer account. If
they will succeed, at least they learn something useful.
If anyone has difficulties creating wiki accounts, write an email to
sr-dev mailing list and it will be investigated.
Cheers,
Daniel
PS. This registration system will last, is not for April 1.
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