<html><head><style type="text/css"><!-- DIV {margin:0px;} --></style></head><body><div style="font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt"><div style="font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; font-size: 12pt;">Hi Weiter,<br><br>Yeah, I have been trying to limit myself to technical observations too, but the governance aspect is somewhat interesting too as a hint for future development, even though I guess even this is much more confusing than the technical ones. I have investigated, both projects have their firms with them that pursue their commercial interests which creates a risk of possibly departing from the public interest, like with redhat. From this angle they look quite similar. But if any worries me just a little bit more than openser. Appearance at commercial shows on the "open" side versus technical event on the "net" side if I take your BSD parallel, marketing "open" webpage accusing "net" version bad, hiding root commerical
sponsors on the "open" webpage, this could be signs for a redhat-like doubleedged sword. Hopefully I am oversensing because I mean it is natural that everybody has SOME interest, but indisputably folks on both sides have done good work, but same indisputably more TRANSPARENCY would be helpful for both projects so that users can be less investigative.<br><br>But I agree the technical comparison you suggest will be very useful if not most useful. This is what I am eventually upto. Anything folks have to tell in this topic is most welcome like the retransmission timers in subject or user loading.<br><br>rr<br><br>disconcerted by the fact that the more I know the more I am confused and determined to get over the learning curve quickly. also excuse the abuse I crossposted again but I think cross interrogation is a bit painful but the more effective :-)<br><br><div style="font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; font-size: 12pt;">----- Original Message
----<br>From: Weiter Leiter <bp4mls@googlemail.com><br>To: Kim Il <kim_il_s@yahoo.com><br>Cc: users@openser.org<br>Sent: Thursday, November 9, 2006 1:42:29 PM<br>Subject: Re: Fw: [Users] TM : retransmission timers<br><br>Common user barely has time to meet his boss requirements, rather than playing around with different scenarios, platforms, environments. <br><br>I only read one email where Daniel stated that OpenSER now performs a whole much better while loading users from database. SER guys put no figure out yet, neither bare numbers nor comparisons. I'm just really curious to see how both servers perform, that's all.
<br><br>Even though I must maintain my SER, I kinda like OpenSER's faster releases and developers' responsiveness (that I shamelessly exploit for the common code left there :-), which is pretty much nonexistent with iptel (at least this is the general belief here at OpenSER). But about this I'll probably have to fight on SER's mailing list. I still wish that one day I won't have to compare features; heck, NetSER and FreeSER are still available ;-).
<br><br>WL.<br><br>PS. Maybe regretfully, I haven't seen any iptel booth at von this year, while OpenSER guys put up a nice show. My congrats.<br><br><div>
<span class="gmail_quote">On 11/9/06, <b class="gmail_sendername">Kim Il</b> <<a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="mailto:kim_il_s@yahoo.com">kim_il_s@yahoo.com</a>> wrote:
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I can see what you are hinting at, but I guess that the users are the unbiased party that should do the judgment and not the parties who have something to gain.<br><br>cheers<div><span>
<br><br><b><i>Weiter Leiter <<a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="mailto:bp4mls@googlemail.com">bp4mls@googlemail.com</a>></i></b> wrote:<blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;">
This features comparisons are not to last for too long, some performance comparisons would also be nice. After all, there are plenty of UA-level stacks out there. At least now that both projects get to have stable releases after forking and some core functionality remained shared.
<br><br>I wonder what "unbiased" organization will take up the challenge. :-)<br><br><div><span class="gmail_quote">On 11/8/06, <b class="gmail_sendername">Kim Il</b> <<a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="mailto:kim_il_s@yahoo.com">
kim_il_s@yahoo.com </a>> wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">Mike,<br><br>this is a really good start and we should collect these things so as to help the community to take the right choice. I would also suggest that what ever ground breaking issues we list we stay at the functional level (I do not think anyone is helped by using a description containing "allowing carrier grade platforms" and similar marketing phrases).
<br><br>cheers</blockquote><div><br>{truncated because too large}<br></div><br></div><br> </blockquote><br></span></div><p>
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