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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">regarding selling copies and the source code fee, the quite extensive GPLv2 FAQ covers it extensively:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><a href="https://www.gnu.org/licenses/old-licenses/gpl-2.0-faq.html#DoesTheGPLAllowDownloadFee">https://www.gnu.org/licenses/old-licenses/gpl-2.0-faq.html#DoesTheGPLAllowDownloadFee</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Nobody than the buyer could request the source code, but each buyer can of course distribute the source code freely:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Henning<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><a href="https://skalatan.de/blog/"><span lang="EN-GB" style="color:#0563C1">https://skalatan.de/blog/</span></a></span><span lang="EN-GB" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><a href="https://gilawa.com/"><span lang="EN-GB" style="color:#0563C1">https://gilawa.com</span></a></span><span lang="EN-GB" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><b>From:</b> sr-users <sr-users-bounces@lists.kamailio.org>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Daniel-Constantin Mierla<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, February 9, 2022 8:09 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Kamailio (SER) - Users Mailing List <sr-users@lists.kamailio.org>; Patrick Karton <patrickarton@hotmail.com><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [SR-Users] SEMS license with kamailio and rtpengine<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p style="margin-left:35.4pt">GPL software can be sold without problems, there is no restriction on selling it, but the buyer can request the source code and it has to be provided (afaik, source code delivery could also have a price, but not exceeding the value
of the binary form -- this remark must be validated with a lawyer). Nobody else than the buyer has the rights to request the source code.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p style="margin-left:35.4pt">Cheers,<br>
Daniel<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt">On 08.02.22 21:36, Patrick Karton wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt">Thanks again Alex :). I will make further read about FOSS licensing.
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt">Using open source at large scale is relatively new for us.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt">We have Law department so WE will discuss in more details about it.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt">Le 8 févr. 2022 20:57, Alex Balashov
<a href="mailto:abalashov@evaristesys.com"><abalashov@evaristesys.com></a> a écrit :<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p style="margin-left:35.4pt">Then you should not have any problem using SEMS as an input into commercial services. :-) As a general rule, open-source licensing is not concerned with _how_ you can use the software, only how you distribute it and/or any modifications
you make to it. Think, for example, about something like Linux, which you are likely also using. You are free to use Linux to make money.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p style="margin-left:35.4pt">However, it is surprising that you are not familiar with the GPL (GNU General Public Licence), since it is all but ubiquitous and probably the most popular open-source licence out there. I would take the time to research it, get
familiar with its basic premises, and, of course, consult a lawyer if you have any truly esoteric questions.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p style="margin-left:35.4pt">— Alex<o:p></o:p></p>
<p style="margin-left:35.4pt">> On Feb 8, 2022, at 2:50 PM, Patrick Karton <a href="mailto:patrickarton@hotmail.com">
<patrickarton@hotmail.com></a> wrote:<br>
> <br>
> Thanks for explanation Alex.<br>
> <br>
> Im a service provider.<br>
> <br>
> Le 8 févr. 2022 20:14, Alex Balashov <a href="mailto:abalashov@evaristesys.com">
<abalashov@evaristesys.com></a> a écrit :<br>
> You can Google the meaning of “per se” for a richer explanation, but it means “as such” or “the thing itself”. :-)<br>
> <br>
> “Per se” in this context means that you cannot sell SEMS as a _software_ product, because it is free software.<br>
> <br>
> Are you a service provider, or are you in the business of selling software for service providers?<br>
> <br>
> > On Feb 8, 2022, at 12:37 PM, Patrick Karton <a href="mailto:patrickarton@hotmail.com">
<patrickarton@hotmail.com></a> wrote:<br>
> > <br>
> > Hi Alex,<br>
> > <br>
> > Thank you very much for the response.<br>
> > <br>
> > i did not understand your last phrase "You may not, however, sell SEMS per se". what is per se ?
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> > <br>
> > as i said i only want to use the sems sbc module and eventually annoucement and ivr module. but thats all the functionnality i want from sems.<br>
> ><br>
> <br>
> -- <br>
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