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<p>Hi!</p>
<p>But there would be a connection after app will wake up. <br>
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<p>Wake up -> REGISTER -> Connection.</p>
<p>And after this it's about a time to send to app any info on
canceled or already answered calls.<br>
</p>
<pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">Regards,
Igor</pre>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 10.03.2021 18:18, Jurijs Ivolga
wrote:<br>
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<div>Hi,</div>
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<div>If you look into this:</div>
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<div><a
href="https://developer.apple.com/documentation/pushkit/responding_to_voip_notifications_from_pushkit"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://developer.apple.com/documentation/pushkit/responding_to_voip_notifications_from_pushkit</a></div>
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<div>Full quote:</div>
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0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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After sending the initial push notification, don’t send
additional push notifications to cancel the call or
communicate new details to your app. Instead, communicate
with the app directly over the network connection you
established between it and your server. Using an existing
network connection is generally faster than sending a push
notification, and if network conditions are poor, APNs may
be unable to deliver push notifications to the device
anyway. <br>
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<div>So based on my interpretation of what is written above, it
seems they do not prohibit, but rather recommend it because of
"
Using an existing network connection is generally faster
". As far as we are discussing a case where there are no
existing connections, I personally think this part of
documentation is not relevant to that particular case.<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Jurijs<br>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Mar 10, 2021 at 6:36
PM Igor Olhovskiy <<a href="mailto:igorolhovskiy@gmail.com"
moz-do-not-send="true">igorolhovskiy@gmail.com</a>>
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<p>Hi,</p>
<p>But Apple prohibits to use 2nd push for call cancel.
That's not my decision.</p>
<p><a
href="https://developer.apple.com/documentation/pushkit/responding_to_voip_notifications_from_pushkit"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://developer.apple.com/documentation/pushkit/responding_to_voip_notifications_from_pushkit</a><br>
</p>
<p> </p>
<blockquote type="cite">After sending the initial push
notification, don’t send additional push notifications to
cancel the call or communicate new details to your app.
Instead, communicate with the app directly over the
network connection you established between it and your
server.</blockquote>
<br>
<pre cols="72">Regards,
Igor</pre>
<div>On 10.03.2021 15:18, Jurijs Ivolga wrote:<br>
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<div>Hi,</div>
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<div>My point is that you're referring to documentation
where it is assumed that there is always connection
between iOS app and Kamailio, but this might not be
the case, like in the scenario that I described.</div>
<div><br>
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<div>I think somebody who put this documentation is not
really aware of all use cases and for this case it is
better to use push for cancelling a call, IMHO.<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Jurijs<br>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Mar 10, 2021
at 4:15 PM Igor Olhovskiy <<a
href="mailto:igorolhovskiy@gmail.com"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">igorolhovskiy@gmail.com</a>>
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<p>Hi!<br>
</p>
<p>That is exactly my question. Now I have
workaround for this (<a
href="https://samael28.blogspot.com/2021/03/kamailio-and-delayed-cancel-on-ios.html"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://samael28.blogspot.com/2021/03/kamailio-and-delayed-cancel-on-ios.html</a>)
but maybe there is more efficient way, like
"storing" dead transactions.<br>
</p>
<pre cols="72">Regards,
Igor</pre>
<div>On 10.03.2021 15:07, Jurijs Ivolga wrote:<br>
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<div>Hi,</div>
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<div>So if there is no connection between iOS
app and Kamailio, what should we do? Lets
imagine scenario: call arrives, app receives
push notifications and then call is cancelled,
even before connection is established.<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Jurijs<br>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Mar
10, 2021 at 4:04 PM Igor Olhovskiy <<a
href="mailto:igorolhovskiy@gmail.com"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">igorolhovskiy@gmail.com</a>>
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<p>Hello,<br>
</p>
<p>As I got, this is should be supported by
app itself, not iOS.</p>
<p>And Apple docs says explicitly:</p>
<p> </p>
<blockquote type="cite">After sending the
initial push notification, don’t send
additional push notifications to cancel
the call or communicate new details to
your app. Instead, communicate with the
app directly over the network connection
you established between it and your
server.</blockquote>
<br>
<pre cols="72">Regards,
Igor</pre>
<div>On 10.03.2021 13:52, Ilie Soltanici
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<div dir="auto">Hello, </div>
<div dir="auto"><br>
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<div dir="auto">On Cancel we are sending
just another Push Notification that
indicates the call is cancelled, and the
calling screen dissapear.</div>
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<div dir="auto">Regards,</div>
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Wed 10 Mar 2021 at 12:28, Igor
Olhovskiy <<a
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style="margin:0px 0px 0px
0.8ex;border-left:1px solid
rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Hello!<br>
<br>
Is there any way to "store" already
finished transactions in tsilo? Idea
<br>
is to deliver, for example, canceled
calls to the phone, when call <br>
already was answered on other
device, but push notification arrive
<br>
later? Major problem here, that
there how it's working on iOS.<br>
<br>
On iOS phone first show you calling
screen, than - app is waking and <br>
after app will register and receive
invite with tsilo, it updates <br>
calling screen with CallerID and
other info. But if call was canceled
<br>
before, calling screen is shown, but
app not receiving INVITE, so, call <br>
screen is just there for some
timeout (for Linphone, for ex, it's
20 sec).<br>
<br>
Right now I've manage to do it via
external SIPP call, that emulates <br>
"fake missed call", but maybe there
is other way to "store" already dead
<br>
transactions for some time?<br>
<br>
PS: Unfortunately, can't solve this
on mobile app level.<br>
<br>
-- <br>
Regards,<br>
Igor<br>
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